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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke's should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I'm sure the military has plenty of other options.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

If you are not ready to use a nuke ever, it stops being a deterrent. Game theory.

But this situation is not the kind where a nuke is used as a deterrent. If Israel was saying they're sorry and asking for ceasefire, while Iranians would be absolutely destroying what remains of it and not listening, then yes.

Or, if Iran had a nuke and Israelis were succeeding in destroying Iran.

But neither are true.

[–] ScizorCipher@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are 13k ton bombs that can penetrate pretty deep dropped by B2 bombers, which might be headed to the ME right now.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The B2s will be flown into Diego Garcia. The only time they will be in the middle east is if they are over a target. Hopefully they stay in Diego Garcia.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 4 points 8 months ago

I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.

The other option is the GBU-57 bunker buster bombs, which is what they used - but a single bomb like that isn’t capable of reaching deep enough on its own. So they had to use a significant portion of their stockpile to achieve their objective that way.

The alternative would have been to drop in special forces and have them break into the heavily defended facility the traditional way.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Oh honey, read some of the norbert weiner type of nuke cult guys, and their Soviet counterparts.

This is a rabbit hole nobody wants anybody to ho down.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

hole nobody wants anybody to ho down.

If this series of murderous far right zionist military adventures proves anything, its that American politicians will ho themselves down any hole.

And have before, but some of them are...