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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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And what, let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything? Let them destroy a fledgling democracy? Right on the EU's and NATO's doorstep? Come on.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fledgling democracy

lmao are you fucking kidding

and shit while we're at it, what the fuck do you think NATO has been doing its entire existence? it's been destroying -actual- fledgling democracies, you monstrously hypocritical ass

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a fledgling democracy

Sees notably corrupt country the U.S. couped in 2014, where even the anti-corruption president has personal funds stashed in offshore bank accounts

is-this "Is this a fledgling democracy?"

[-] fuckiforgotmypasswor@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything?

I've noticed that every pro-NATO voice screaming "war good" has to pretend like the binary outcome of this war is a) Ukraine becomes Russia and every living inhabitant is genocided (see above comment from bibibi for case in point), or b) Ukraine heroically drives back Russia with magic in a completely asymmetrical and unwinnable war

Come on.

And then finishes their comment with something like this

There's no material analysis to support any of this

The only way to get to that viewpoint is to believe Putin is an irrational, genocidal maniac hellbent on killing checks notes neighbors who are ethnically russian, who also desperately wants to push even more of Russia's border right up against a hostile NATO. It's no surprise that the people saying this shit are pro NATO and don't understand the material reality underlying geopolitical conflicts like this one

Not gonna touch the "fledgeling democracy" thing, other comrades can dunk on that chefs-kiss

[-] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

This entire thread is proof that the liberal understanding of geopolitics and foreign policy is entirely vibes based

[-] bibibi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. "ethnical russian" - what is that?

  2. russian imperialism is a thing. People there are brainwashed with russia's greatness ideas and expansion. putin's actions just represent the will of russians.

  3. The fact we were attacked and lost that many people is already a defeat. We lost this war when gave up nukes under the push of the west and russia. this together with naivness of our post-soviet people defined the path of our degradation. But it neither a win for russia, and won't be. Russia was always corrupted just like Ukraine, it just got more resources and nukes, but that's it. without the above fact and support of the west, maybe we would not be able to suppress them

[-] fuckmyphonefuckingsu@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

putin's actions just represent the will of russians.

this is your brain on liberalism

but thank you for at least conceding america deserved 9/11

[-] fuckiforgotmypasswor@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

russian imperialism is a thing

i just can't anymore, the cognitive dissonance is fucking astounding, yall can deal with the libs in this thread

im just gonna let people like this LIB continue to suck off the western imperialists sending radiated shells to his neighborhood, slava ukrani buddy

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh man I still remember the post that was leaked from russian government webpage on the 25th, a day after russian invaded. It was an absolute hard on about russian imperialism and how they will restore the good old russian empire or something, which included most slavic countries btw. It was taken down in hours but I checked that the addess was correct and legit. No proof of it since it's been a year already and I saved nothing, so if you don't believe it ignore me and please don't spread this since I have no source anymore, but damn if it doesn't paint a clear picture of russia's intent on all of this since way before.

[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this damning evidence of Russia's intentions would surely have motivated more countries to send aid to Ukraine. Why didn't you take a screenshot?? you realize that you're directly responsible for the deaths of thousand of Ukrainians, right???

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago

How do you think this is going to end exactly?

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

a fledgling democracy?

Lol

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago

fledgling democracy

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