To anyone who supports capitalism or otherwise opposes socialism:
Do you support the idea that one man can accumulate enough wealth to own all land of this Earth, making everyone born in his empire under his rule as long as he can kill to defend it? What prevents capitalism from accomplishing this in law? What law exists that limits the borders of nations?
Why, then, must we endure a system where a single man owning the Earth and enslave it is a feature, not a bug?
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I just wanna know what people think. Why must this be maintained? Why is any opposition to capping wealth just the end of the world when it probably would save it, just logically thinking it through?
I'm sorry but this is a nonsense over thee top argument. This is the same as saying "do you support the rampant murdering of your opponents, and if you don't, why do you support anarchy?"
Everybody can make dumb statements like that.
Every system, be it communism, capitalism, anarchy or other can and will be abused. There will always be those trying to become a dictator type asshole, see Stalin, for example. The only way for any system to work well is to put laws in place to limit what cheaters can do. For capitalism that would be tax the shit out of he rich, anything over 10M in personal wealth should be taxed at 100%. There is no right for anyone to be extremely rich.
Capitalism has good parts and whether you like it or not, it's by extremely the most successful to move humanity forward . I have zero problems with a capitalist system that would work like this. Limit company sizes to 500 employees and a billion dollars max in value. Again, tax anything over thst at 100%.
This will get you loads of smaller companies that will have to compete for employees, it'll be easier to force them to obey the law.
This will get you a shit load of money in a government that can then use that for a socialist system that pays for free healthcare, free education, free housing, free great public transportation, etc.
How are "we" going to tax the rich when politicians spend 30% of their time seeking campaign contributions?
Every political viewpoint has a flaw but that doesn't mean people should not bring up the flaw.
Let people criticize all political ideologies and through discourse people can examine what is true and what they want in the future
Capitalism facilitates the rich getting richer. It controls political activity. Capitalism is not a system that allows wealth to be distributed from the rich to the poor.
These are literally critical questions. I'm asking "what prevents it". If "nothing" prevents it then nothing prevents it and maybe we should try to figure out ways to prevent it before it becomes a reality because "nothing prevents it".
Why would every landowner sell their land? What could be valuable enough to convince them? Maybe money and if they could keep their land like on an 80 year lease?
You may be moving goal posts. Who cares why the sell their land, capitalism doesn't forbid someone for doing it for fun or any reason. Capitalism doesn't prevent it, therefore there is no way to prevent it within capitalism---this is a fundamental truth of capitalism, like it or not. Nothing stops, in a capitalist society, a human being from attaining all the wealth in the world: that is a valid dream within capitalism. Thankfully capitalism hasn't seen it through yet, but it's absolutely possible. This is a feature of capitalism. It must be made a bug.
I'm just engaging in the conversation that you started. You said someone could purchase every piece of land in the whole world. I asked why everyone would sell, you say they might sell for fun?
Why does anyone ever sell land? Maybe because they're in massive debt and the only thing they have left is a family christmas tree farm that's 100 acres. Maybe they got high and chose to. It honestly has no merit to the debate, I encourage you to engage with the questions posed, specifically the final one.
We need to get money out of politics, until that happens logic and morality will not matter
I don't think there's much reason to worry that people will get high and sell their land or just do it for fun or will sell the family Christmas tree farm to settle their debts. All great scenarios
A) America is a capitalist system. B) In America, the law is for sale.
Capitalism is a system that doesn't prevent the sale of law. Nothing in capitalist theory prevented the sale of law from happening. It literally was put up for sale and is now available to those with capital (aka, not you or me). Capitalism is the system of America. Capitalism allows the sale of law. Capitalism supports the sale of law, and the only thing stopping it is supposed to be democracy, but that's failing at the moment.
All of this to say, money in politics is a observably feature of capitalism, not a bug. This is a failure of democracy that's supposed to reign in capitalism but when so-called democratic leaders choose to not act, capitalism wins. This is not a surprise at all, because capitalism wants everything to be purchasable, even power and authority.
Forward towards what?
Yeah it's good that we can only gave nice things as the side effect of a scam, that everything must be based in exploitation, and the only check on that, which usually serves to maintain it, is a massive institution that exists for violence.
This all sounds great. Love it.