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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also freedom of speech is between your government and you. Your government can't censor speech, private companies, individuals, organizations, ect, can censor your speech or censor themselves from hearing it. All rights are only between an individual and their government.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The private property rights that give private companies the ability to censor your speech are created and inforced by the government in the first place, so functionally it's not different. A handful of massive companies who functionally own the government getting to police what is acceptable speech is not functionally different from the government doing it directly.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Oh absolutely, taken in a greater context which I totally neglected to say that's absolutely true.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I really can't fathom why people cry about "freedom of speech" when something privately owned decides not to include what they consider fucking shit. Freedom of speech is the fact the government cannot stop you from saying what you want. NOTHING ELSE. People paying to run their own instances do not owe you anything

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

All rights are only between an individual and their government

Different rights have different scopes. Some rights, like the right to live, are between everyone. Some others, like the right to receive a purchased product, are only between buyer and seller. Freedom of speech "just happens" to be between individual and government, in countries where it's even a right.