They keep talking about running fucking Kamala Harris again. Last dipshit poll i saw on reddit had them choosing her or Buttigieg Just fucking kill us already

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gavin Newsom will declare full cooperation with ICE and then cinch the Democratic primary

(is there a /s for "not sarcastic but i would do so much to avoid this)

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Uhhhh....the Democrats will nominate another geriatric. The "libs" won't vote for them. Boom, 8 years of JD Vance.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

have you considered political action beyond just voting?

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How will that get a person in office?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

we don't actually need anyone in office to get what we want.

[–] sudo_halt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 days ago

You will be saying thank you for 4 years straight ( if there is a country left )

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm just surprised you're not blaming Obama.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The deporter in chief? Who presided over the state murder of the original BLM activists before his party coopted the movement?

It would be insane to blame him for what came downstream of his actions.

The only people to blame for our politics today are the ones who were against genocide.

[+] Lightor@lemmy.world -7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, why stop at 8 years ago? Can we work Truman into being responsible for this, too?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah sure. Let's ignore the specific actions that have clear and direct lines leading to what's happening right now and attack the concept of causality itself with vapid smarmy internet trolling.

Deeply unserious.

[+] Lightor@lemmy.world -8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Let’s ignore the specific actions that have clear and direct lines leading to what’s happening right now and attack the concept of causality itself with vapid smarmy internet trolling.

You mean like the very comment I first responded to?

don’t worry guys, the libs will vote for another geriatric. this will all be over in about 3 and a half years.

You seem lost lol.

But sure, you can be overly self-serious and pull all the threads you want. I'm sure if I pulled the threads, I could find a way to blame the Founding Fathers for a lot of this, too. At some point, you need to stop looking at the past and blaming people like it does anything and instead look to the future and the changes you can make.

But then you couldn't complain online with cringe name calling like "deporter in chief" instead of talking about the topic like a big boy.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You think the idea of blaming the president directly before trump for creating the conditions for trump is insane; you're a fucking moron.

[+] Lightor@lemmy.world -8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Just gunna gloss over everything I said huh, ignoring how this convo started, sure. The irony is you only prove my point that you want to just look at someone in the past to blame instead of holding the current admin accountable for actions they've taken. You're simping for the current president who's best friends with the richest guy on earth, acting like he's helpless.

I mean if you want to ignore nuance and any role Trump had to play in it sure, it's all Biden's fault. I guess he was just so helpless. He didn't want to mass deport people or deploy the military, Biden made him. He didn't want DOGE to create massive debt and disrupt essential services, Biden made him. I sure hope at some point in his 4 years he's able to take control of the country from Biden. For being such a strong, big, tough guy he sure seems like some old ex president can easily undermine everything he wants to do while Trump has his entire party behind him, backed by the richest man in the world lol. What a victim, there's nothing he can do! Won't someone please think of poor Trump!

Trump's actions caused these riots. Not Biden. Trump deployed the military there. Not Biden. Are you having a stroke? Were you asleep for the last 6 months? I mean all this info is out there.... Or is this one of those things like when the economy is doing good it's Trump's economy, but when it's bad it's Biden's economy. That way you don't have to take any responsibility and still get the credit.

However, let me explain why you make no sense and clearly have a loose grasp of basic logic. Based on your logic everything bad that happened during Biden's term was the same right? It's not Bidens fault, it's Trumps. You don't think that the idea of blaming the president directly before Biden for creating the conditions for Biden is insane, right? So anything Trump is dealing with now is actually his own fault because he set up Biden that way. Either way it all comes back to Trump. I mean, unless you follow this BS logic, then no one ever needs to take responsibility for their actions, just blame the last guy! See how broken your cult logic is?

Acting like Trump has no fault for the choices, actions, and words he chooses is pathetic. You sound like a MAGA cultist through and through my guy. Baaaa louder, maybe you'll drown out reality fully one day and finally find all the scapegoats you need to feel secure in your world view.

TL;DR - Apply your "president directly before X" logic to Biden too instead of just your cult leader, and you'll maybe realize how flawed it is.