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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've sadly ran into this kind of thing before.

I'll never forget the assholes I found on Reddit who tried to say that it's wrong to push for LGBT Rights especially outside of the US because it was "Pushing Western Values where they don't belong, like a colonizer!"

These people will come up with any excuse to be dickbutts.

LGBT Rights are based and cool, and anyone who unironically uses the term "Biological Male" is not arguing in good faith

[–] FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LGBT Rights are based and cool

depends, but in general they are

and anyone who unironically uses the term “Biological Male” is not arguing in good faith

I disagree on this

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"biological male" is if anything bad description of reality. A trans woman who has been on hormone therapy for a couple of years is biologically closer to cisgender women than cisgender men. And even more so if they've had surgeries. But usually people who use that term don't care and lump everyone who was assigned male at birth into that category.

I could attribute this term to ignorance because it sounds reasonable, but it's far too often used to exclude trans women from spaces that other women belong

[–] FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 11 points 6 months ago

That’s a beautiful way of seeing it indeed, you convinced me

My point was just to say that in very specific cases it can be used to make it clear that the person is born male but I guess the cisgender and transgender terms are now relatively well known

It’s still easier to explain some things with this word, but I wouldn’t use it socially of course

You nailed the problem: it is often used for bad reasons and thus people categorize people saying this word, which is highly invalid imo and shouldn’t be criminalized this way when the context is appropriate

But yea, now even scientific literature pretty much abandoned this word

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of ignorance is just a story convincing enough to be memetic, and social truth is about as intelligent as pond scum, because it is that shallow social reaction.

The social truth is also aggressively defended. You'll have academics explaining how this is an issue based on definitions bounded for utility in the form of heuristics specialized for social communicablility.

Does anyone remember all the annoying kids ranting about social constructs? Most things are social constructs. Just like doors, windows, and the boundable complexities around when a door is a window, or when they are neither.

Fighting that doors can't be windows is dumb when I have door windows and window doors.

Imtersex people exist. Trans animals exist, and some species are not clearly boundable /definable by that anthropocentric oversimplification.

If only we had cooperative social values for actually understanding the world.

[–] shimmersling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

just say 'talk' (accessible language is a cooperative social value)

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] shimmersling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

cuz alts aren't allowed, you'll get booted

you can use your main, it's all good, unless you're from a defederated instance?

[–] shimmersling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i initially signed up defederated but i have not been on in three years. i am a socialist, i just want a place to post anonymous love letters and this is the instance where that's possible 🤷‍♀️

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] shimmersling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

could you point me to the site rules? i'm trying to familiarize myself, if i need to make only one account i will do that, the federation contingency attached to all the posting dynamics here makes it a bit of a headache but i want to act consistent with platform rules.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

the site rules are usually on the homepage for each instance. so for SJW it's here

For lemmy.world it's here

They're mostly all the same rules in every instance