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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly? As an American I find this positively insane.

Not just because it’s insane… but also they think it can be enforced.

Keep in mind this is the state that seceded from Mexico because they wanted to keep their slaves, failed as their own nation…. Joined the us and then seceded again because they got told no slaves again.

[-] darq@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's not even important if it can actually be enforced. Just the spectre of it maybe being enforced is enough to change people's behaviour.

This whole "letting the citizens sue other citizens" loophole that the Rs have started to use as a means to circumvent proper lawmaking processes has to be closed.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not a legal issue, it's just propaganda and fear mongering masked as a legal issue to create confusion.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything. That's a fact you can't and don't want to change.

These "laws" would not stand up in court. They don't actually want anybody to sue for this because the first case that gets thrown out or ruled against will show that.

But until that happens it's a cheap way to scare people.

[-] TheBucklessProphet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem isn’t that anyone can sue anyone, the problem is that these laws give legal standing for anyone to sue anyone. Normal lawsuits have to pass a certain bar to establish legal standing, and if you don’t pass that bar your case gets thrown out. These laws essentially skip that part by giving blanket legal standing. I don’t know if that would stand up in a higher court, but it’s a dangerous precedent that they’re establishing.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago

You don't need express "legal standing" to sue. At most it might prevent the odd case from being summarily thrown out and prolong the inevitable. Like I said, from a legal standpoint this is mostly irrelevant, It's pure posturing – "someone could sue you" – which was already true. It changes nothing.

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