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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As an American I know exactly why my country can’t do the same: Because we are ruled by greedy, short-sighted idiots: the voters.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not their fault alone. There are actual people in power -- the closest thing you can get to an actual moustache twirling villain -- actively working to build that world. Additionally, their goals align very well with capitalism's incentive structures.

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess none of the other developed countries must be capitalist, because they seem not to not be influenced by capitalism’s incentive structures.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have been of course, but have done a much better job of managing it.

Unmanaged, capitalism will spin out of control. A slow and shitty paperclip maximiser.

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Definitely, we need more regulation in the market or it’s only going to get worse.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes but the voters still vote for them because voters are greedy, short-sighted idiots.

[–] via_solaris@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Missouri, the ballot proposals that people vote for are consistently overturned by the representatives that people vote for. Right now, it's the ballot proposal that people should get sick leave.

People are completely propagandized to vote against their own interests.

Ironically, the sentiment that people are scum and deserve nothing--or rather, that they are greedy, short-sighted idiots--is also held by the villains in charge. So I'd maybe rethink that sentiment if you want to change things for the better.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

I would if I thought things would actually get better.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well we're less greedy and less short-sighted than many people, so that proves it's possible. How do we help make a world where there are more empathetic, farsighted people? How do we build a system that incentivises acting in this way?

These are questions which have answers. There won't ever be one right answer for every situation, but there are worse and better answers.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And if I thought humanity was worth it I’d look for those better answers, but we’re not.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm down with exploring the lower depths of an eschatological philosophy. I'd just rather not die from a bad tooth if I'm going to be forced to be here anyway.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Good news! You’ll die of cancer from forever chemicals first!

Yay humanity!

[–] priusdrivingcunt@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Get out of here with that left vs right nonsense. The voters have no power, we have an electoral college so the popular vote doesn't even matter. What matters is the 1% buying politicians and elections with manufactured consent with platforms like Facebook.

[–] via_solaris@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I left reddit after I realized that reddit was using an algorithm to addict me to endless doomscrolling--not a good combo with the obvious censorship on reddit rn. The equity running reddit can't convince me to go conservative--but they can incapacitate me in helpless outrage that goes nowhere. Despair is its own insidious propaganda.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

This isn’t a left versus right thing. It’s all voters. They’re all greedy idiots. Including me.

Democracy was a mistake. Sentience was a mistake. Embrace fungus.