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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The separatist movement is literally a Salafist movement that wants to create a Uighur caliphate. It is Uighur ISIS, which is obviously not an organic Uighur movement because Salafist ideology is from Saudi Arabia and directly contradicts the Uighur interpretation of Islam which is closer to a Turkish interpretation. Uighurs have a long history of making and drinking wine, for example, which is expressly forbidden by Salafists. The separatists train with ISIS and go back to China, forcing women to wear niqab and burka (not something Uighurs have ever done historically), not allowing women to use money or drive, and forcing them to continue having sex and children even against their will. These last things are illegal in China and that's why they are sent to prison, but the prisons are actually designed to deradicalize them, provide job skills, and reintegrate them into their own society without being influenced by Salafism. Salafism is what is trying to eliminate Uighur culture, and China is preserving Uighur culture by banning Salafism.

It's really easy to go and round up Salafists because they dress and act totally different than traditional Uighurs and are always breaking the law because their religious beliefs require them to do illegal things, like the subjugation of women described earlier. The government has responsibility to stop this, especially when it spills over into terrorist attacks as it did many times before they began the deradicalization campaign.

China is doing well by combatting the root of extremism which is poverty. Xinjiang is very remote and was lagging behind the rest of China in access to jobs, education, healthcare which meant that they were susceptible to radicalization. They are close to Afghanistan which the US turned into a Salafist training center explicitly to destabilize the entire region by promoting separatists. Now Xinjiang is a massive tourist hub, has access to everything the rest of China has, and the Uighur culture is thriving. More people speak Uighur than there are Uighurs in the world, showing that non Uighurs learn the language just to get by living in Xinjiang because it is so prevalent. The opposite of the cultural repression people claim

[–] Lucien@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

Excellent points, I really appreciate the addition of the nuance that has been lacking in typical MSM talking points about Uighurs that it's like their version of ISIS that's being detained, not all Uighurs.

[–] procapra@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you happen to have an article discussing this talking point that I can read up on?

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is a mega thread floating around on this topic I will try to find, and also some good videos. I'll get back as soon as I can

[–] procapra@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

no worries comrade, I appreciate the help

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang

There's some other links I will find but been busy, this one has a lot to go off of though

[–] procapra@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Was skeptical of the source at first, but they do seem to have some useful information here. Thank you!