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[โ€“] taiyang@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

16 points, so about a standard deviation. That's big, but your own varience can be just as high; the original point of IQ is a measure of how well you'll do in school to detect who may need additional attention (and not an inherent intelligence) so later aged tests include more on knowledge base while earlier tests are more about things like pattern recognition, mental rotation, etc. Infact, it has to get recurved regularly as each generation tends to be roughly 10 or 15 points higher (although idk about gen Z).

All this is to say that a slump of 16 points doesn't have to be shit like lead poisoning or gas fumes (although that certainly doesn't help, and pollution matters), it can simply be the US education system isn't good at teaching students. Cross culture studies already show that, as do differences between the rich and the poor. Or hell, just playing Tetris raises IQ, lol.

It'd obviously help if this wasn't a click bait article, though. People wanting to know why need to read a lot of actual research to know the myriad of different things that impact IQ and not just "haha US stupid."

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

although idk about gen Z

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[โ€“] taiyang@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I technically meant that in regards to not seeing the research lately, but... lol

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I thought it was hilarious, can't lie. But I don't think gen Z (or alpha, or beta, or whatever gen is the currently self-aware one) are unintelligent, I just think they have shit influence. Parents need to stay extra vigilant in this age.

[โ€“] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Real talk the main driver of advances are usually healthier environments, better nutrition and access to knowledge (e g. Via tech). I don't think Z or alphas are getting better in those regards, kind of inheriting the opposite.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You might be right on that, indeed. At least some countries are backpedaling hard on all of the above right now.

[โ€“] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The article says 7 points is standard in twins. So this is over twice what is normally seen