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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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Death and the Gorgon - Greg Egan (asimovs.com)
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Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

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[โ€“] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

From the comments of the LW article.

"I like and admire both Charles Stross and Greg Egan a lot but I think they both have "singularitarians" or "all of their biggest fans" or something like that in their Jungian Shadow.

I'm pretty sure they like money. Presumably they like that we buy their books? Implicitly you'd think that they like that we admire them. But explicitly they seem to look down on us as cretins as part of them being artists who bestow pearls on us... or something?"

[โ€“] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 6 hours ago

Yes the rationalists are an incredibly large market and their opinion can make or break an author, sure you betcha