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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

China is slowly getting better. By that I mean that the average living situation in China now is better than is was 50 years ago. Poverty and illiteracy used to be an enormous problem in China, and that's been getting significantly better (although the changes that have decreased poverty have also cause some significant social upheaval). But the first few years, with the Great Leap Forward, that was pretty rough.

On the other hand, China is only nominally communist now. I'd say that it's a single-party capitalist country at this point.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah. China as I understand it is actually really sincerely investing in economic development for the rural areas in a way that's really genuine and admirable. I'm not saying they are always and uniformly bad, almost no one is that.

Basically, both the USSR and China experimented with some variety of actual communism, realized that it didn't work on a big scale, and abandoned it in favor of command-economy capitalism. The USSR didn't do it in time, but China did, and now China works while the USSR exploded and fell down. Why people try to argue that they were better even economically during the time that they were communist is just totally bizarre to me.