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I’ve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy I’ve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.

The hexchanners who aren’t actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All these anti trans laws are already happening under DaBiden but yeah flattened-bernie vote maybe-later-kiddo most important harm reduction of our lifetimes. maybe-later-honey

let's keep doing the same porky-happy thicc-trump biden-troll thing over and over wall-talk

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Every Republican nominee is going to be a knock-off Trump, and every Democratic nominee is going to be a knock-off Obama.

That's just how it's gonna be from here on out.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All these anti trans laws are already happening under DaBiden

The best summary looks to me like:

  • State-level Republicans are aggressively passing anti-trans bills
  • State-level Democrats are occasionally passing trans protection bills
  • National-level Republicans are banging the table for anti-trans bills
  • National-level Democrats (collectively, at least) are unable/unwilling to pass national trans protection legislation
  • A rabidly reactionary judiciary (certainly at the federal level) is eroding protections that exist, and salivating at the prospect of more damage; Democrats have no answer to this
  • Rank-and-file Republicans range from making attack helicopter jokes to genocidal jokes
  • Rank-and-file Democrats range from making attack helicopter jokes to doing meaningful work supporting trans people

You could say much the same for abortion, too.

There are some differences, but not nearly enough, and it's easy to see how one person can look at this and say Dems are obviously better (focusing on state stuff, rank-and-file attitudes, proposed national legislation) while another can look at this and say whatever Dems are doing (focusing mostly on national politics and losing the judiciary) is not nearly enough.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i would just order the military extrajudicially execute transphobes with drone strikes, because i was legally authorized to drone strike US citizens that are part of terrorist movements shrug-outta-hecks

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"BUT BIDEN CAN'T JUST MURDER THE SUPREME COURTERINOO!"

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Why? Why not? No one gave a shit when Obama was hunting down and murdering American children, why do you care when it's a bunch of crusty old fascists?

"BIDEN CAN'T JUST BLACK BAG MANCHIN AND SHOW HIM LIVE FEED OF HIS DAUGHTER'S CAR FROM A PREDATOR DRONE!>!!>!!"

Why not? He can drop hellfire missiles on weddings and ambulances, slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, and god knows what other atrocities, but one pharma crook is off limits? Why?

We're going to vote Blue in '24, and Blue isn't going to do shit. The Democrats have always had options.

[–] jabrd@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

A country that took itself seriously would’ve lined up and shot members of the GOP after Jan 6th just to prove a point

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The difference is us-foreign-policy

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a good bit, but presenting "drone strike the Supreme Court" as a legitimate option is silly.

If you want a take along those lines but realistic, ask libs why Biden hasn't nationalized the Texas National Guard and torn down the horrific shit we're doing at the border.

[–] Sphere@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a bit hyperbolic, sure, but he could easily pack the court, and if Roberts refused to swear in new justices, he could have him arrested. Obama should have done something similar with Garland: when McConnell refused to have a hearing, he should have given a speech about the Senate failing to complete its duties, ordered Roberts to swear Garland in, and then arrested Roberts if he protested the move (along with any other justices who tried to be stubborn). The president has men with guns, and SCOTUS does not, full stop.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol packing the court is categorically different than assassinating them.

I agree Democrats should at least be trying to do more (specifically with Obama and Garland), but it's not as simple as you're describing it. At minimum, what you're describing would lose a bunch of Democratic support, and if a bunch of your own party is against you it's ultimately not going to work. Now of course the fact that a bunch of Democrats would defect over this is itself a problem with the party, but that's the reality of the situation. There was no one weird trick that was guaranteed to work, and there are consequences to trying and failing.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Lol packing the court is categorically different than assassinating them.

It's not "assassination", it's targeted killing, and it's perfectly legal and above board. The Supreme Court said so. The President gets to decide who dies and there's no judicial review possible because it's a "political question".

At minimum, what you're describing would lose a bunch of Democratic support, and if a bunch of your own party is against you it's ultimately not going to work.

Master statesman Saddam Hussein had a solution for that specific problem. You get all your party members in a room, demand they pledge personal loyalty to you, and then force the ones who did pledge to shoot the ones that didn't. Bam. Party discipline secured.

I'm not asking for much. Just for the president to exercise the same tactics to control uncooperative democratically elected governments at home that he uses abroad. Biden allegedly couldn't do anything because Manchin and/or Sistema just couldn't be brought to the table for some weird reason. Somehow the guy who controls the army, the intelligence aparatus, the justice department, the DEA, the IRS, and the Post couldn't find any way to make them move even a little teeny weensie bit.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not asking for much. Just for the president to exercise the same tactics to control uncooperative democratically elected governments at home that he uses abroad.

Sounds funny, but it rings quite true. I am not sure with the decisions of the supreme court how one could stop those actions legally.

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Whatever support Democrats give to trans people is nothing compared to the money they dump on the transphobic fascist police and military. The Democrats and Republicans represent the same class interests. They might sometimes talk a different way, but the policy outcomes are indistinguishable.