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[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m just saying that isn’t how most voters make their decisions. It absolutely should be

Correct, which is why the awful quality of our media and the prevalence of propaganda in our discourse should be a much bigger deal than it is considered as. If you and me want to talk about how important that is, instead of shitting on Biden for some random reason when Trump undoes some good thing that he did, we can do that, but you're clearly not into that.

I don't even know what to say about all the rest of this stuff. The point is: Your thing about Biden being "most responsible" even for this very, very loosely connected bit of policy that impacted student loans was a deliberate lie. Whether you were lying, or just repeating some lie that you genuinely believe, is not as important to me anymore. I feel like our interaction here can conclude.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

Correct, which is why the awful quality of our media and the prevalence of propaganda in our discourse should be a much bigger deal than it is considered as.

Agreed, with a note that the Democratic establishment and their propaganda arm at MSNBC are is as guilty as anyone of causing people to quit caring about facts. Just look at the circus that is the Democratic primary process if you need evidence of that.

instead of shitting on Biden for some random reason

I'm still not shitting on Biden, and I've given you my non-random reason. If the Democrats don't get real about addressing the absolutely justified distrust Americans have in the Democratic party, we are all cooked.

very loosely connected bit of policy that impacted student loans was a deliberate lie.

Nope.