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Apologies in advance for stupid questions as I'm not American but.. just been reading up on Proud Boys and that guy is not how shall I say.. white?
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Some people think if you hate the same people hard enough, you're on the same side -- and the Proud Boys were happy to have someone brown as their front guy for a while there. "See? It's about values!"
The reality is that plenty of them hate his guts for not being white, I remember these guys split into two factions a while back based ok whether they would accept brown people who hated other brown people hard enough or not.
Extremists will happily accept the help of people they dislike when they're weak, particularly if it lends them legitimacy.
When they gain power the purges start.
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/civil-war-brewing-inside-proud-boys-as-top-leader-says-hes-done-pretending-isnt-a-nazi-2649553246
There was a bit of a kerfuffle over that. I don't follow it closely enough to know how that turned out.
Racists are generally sheltered, easily lead, uneducated, and guillible.
True racism isnt generally caused by people they know, its by being told that "they" are taking your jobs, stealing your welfare, clogging your hospitals, driving your living costs up, etc, etc.
Its a tool used by the powerful to divert attention. The easily lead take it at face value and hate "them". If they meet a "reformed" person of colour, they see them as "one of the good ones".
While these racists can be outwardly horrible to individuals, they typically dont "hate" the person. They hate "them". The group that doesnt really exist, that they are told are making their own life worse.
A great example is in the Louis Theroux documentary, Louis and the Nazis. He spends time with various white supremacists, and while hanging out with one of the community leaders he meets his TV repair man, a Mexican man that has been servicing his televisions for years who the white supremacist leader considers a friend. One of the leaders side kicks is also fucking a Mexican woman.
The Mexicans that they know are "the good ones". Its the rest of "them" that are the problem in their eyes.
Its an unfortunately common occurence in people that they can be presented with direct evidence contrary to their beliefs, but they are so far gone down their rabbit hole that they consider the evidence as either an outlier or anomoly and not somethign worth analysing in terms of their perception.
He was one of the voices for Latinos For Trump. The Proud Boys are not against black or Latino people.