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China has a lock on the supply of certain elements that are essential to making such things as military drones, consumer electronics and battery-powered vehicles.

“Some companies have maybe 40 to 60 days of stock left,” said Zoe Oysul, a senior policy analyst at SAFE, a group that advocates for U.S. energy and supply-chain security.

But propping up new supply chains is cumbersome and costly. It will take 10 to 15 years before a robust supply chain that excludes China can be fully developed ...

While the materials are crucial, they are needed in only small amounts, and the profit margins for companies that sell them are thin. The mines and processing facilities involved in their production can be heavily polluting. It was an industry the U.S. was happy to offshore to China decades ago.

China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare-earth metals ... “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms."

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[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

essential to making such things as military drones

I’ll be honest they should’ve stopped selling us anything needed to make military drones years ago unless the US stopped its anti-China rhetoric.

Don’t sell bullets to the guy who keeps telling anyone who will listen how ready he is to go shoot you and your family.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with that. The sooner China blockaded or refused to sell in certain sectors, the more likely it would have been for the US to find alternative supply chains. The yankkks may be getting ships from the ROK or Japan, maybe even Europe. Other industries could go the same way, where some third country makes shit for the US military, and I'm betting China wouldn't be so aggressive against this third country, just like it isn't aggressive with US outposts like ROK, Japan, Philippines (discounting the dispute on the SCS), etc. We already seeing some countries "decide" they wanna be treaded on (or hopefully I'm wrong about this).

Fostering US dependency on them is one of the things China can (allow the US to) do. If I was China, I would precisely be worried about the inverse, having to use tariffs/sanctions sooner (taking in mind the time it'd take for the given industries to fully halt/collapse) than needed to significantly damage the US military/industry capacity and ending up with a more resilient US in the future, which is what the Trump administration apparently wants. The current status quo has been good enough for China. One last benefit of this is that all these technologies are in their possession and the US isn't even left with the crumbs.

Also anti-China rhetoric doesn't mean much for them, they've been coping with that for decades

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think there’s a balance to strike. Making the US dependent on them is good. But I think giving materials to make weapons to the guy who keeps screaming how he wants to use those weapons on you is questionable after a certain point.

“The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them” except China is the main producer of rope.

[–] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

The US wants to use weapons on everyone. The difference is they don't have the guts to cast the first stone and use them on China.

China not only produces rope, but the pliers too 😁