THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I'm sure the other people living in the US legally that were shipped off to El Salvador thought the same thing.
Abrego Garcia is the only one viewed as a "legal citizen", despite entering the country illegally.
Give me a list of legal citizens that have been deported to El Salvador.
Just to be clear, Abrego Carcia was not viewed as a US citizen but was in the US legally. This could be the same case for many others that have been sent to the prison camp but how exactly are we supposed know when none of them have been their due process?
How can it even be acceptable to send someone to a foreign prison indefinitely without sentence, even if they were in the US illegally?
Lol do you think that actually matters to these people?
With hate like this the goal posts are always moving, searching for a new scapegoat...
You are a fool if you think that process won't turn against you.
Glad that you took the bait.
Here is the thing I don't get, you didn't win this interaction. I demonstrated that you are a disengenous fool, in public, and you walked away from this interaction looking like a hateful idiot to everybody else in this conversation.
If that is "taking the bait" I mean ok? I love taking the bait then.
Sometimes I think trolls don't realize that in a system like this, trolling people with edgey disengenous comments that try to push a line of "just joking with my hate but am I?" totally backfires and provides a massive public platform to be picked apart by people that aren't full of shit.
Every time you interact with someone like me and get your ass handed to you from people pointing out you are a shallow asshole, you lose? You make people that hold your beliefs look weak, unable to rhetorically defend their positions beyond kneejerk hate and just plain unattractive.
If your objective is to stoke xenophobia and hate by encouraging people to hate illegal immigrants you just did the opposite by publicly taking that position and then showing how hateful and shallow your reasons were for taking that position.. which reflects badly in most peoples eyes on the whole anti-immigrant vibe.
Y'all are a bunch of loser incels, and I hope you keep providing us opportunities to point that out in public :)