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Support for Trump among Latinos plummets as many feel betrayed over scope of immigration crackdown
(www.latintimes.com)
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Sticking your head in the sand and/or choosing to only watch extremely partisan news is indeed “fault of their own”. If they can’t be informed enough to make good decisions, perhaps they should simply refrain from voting altogether.
That's an extreme misrepresentation. By being here, you're an exception. And you're judging them based on that. And this is the exact issue. They aren't choosing anything. Options like Lemmy etc simply aren't present to them. And that's the issue.
You found it, and that's great. Now figure out how to help normal people find it. And not driving them away.
I don't think that's an extreme misrepresentation. Trump himself told them exactly what he was going to do, so there was certainly at least some amount of head-burrying-in-sand going on. The main message that was present on Lemmy but not in legacy media was that "Yes, he is in fact going to do what he says he will."
There were two possibilities: either you thought he was a doddering idiot that wasn't going to follow through on anything he said, in which case why in the nine hells would you choose him as your president? Or, he was going to do exactly what he said, in which case, why in the nine hells would you choose him as your president?
The problem is that most of the people who voted for him were being selectively optimistic about what he would and wouldn't do. They let him be everything to everyone, and just hand-waved the glaring problems away.
I don't know how you can fix this massive self delusion issue without fixing education and teaching people to think critically, but education has been under attack for nearly as long as I can recall in the US.
That said, I agree this whole "I told you so" attitude isn't particularly useful, it certainly is cathartic, though.
I’m past the “I told you so” phase, however I’m also over everyone saying things like “they didn’t know” or “give them another chance”. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve got TWO viable options at this point in time:
Trump says vague shit all the time. Which that is a prime example of. He wasn't specific. But he did not say it in a vacuum either. The mass media did a lot to sane wash it. To imply that it wasn't as sweeping or horrific as it would actually be. And people believed them.
The mass media does not treat him as a fascistic man child narcissist. They shower him with undo respect and restraint. Thinking in some misguided Nevil Chamberlain sense, that appeasement will save them. Though to be fair plenty of them feel like they are in on it as well.
To deny that this is the case, that mass media has not failed us, that their failings to be informed are all on them and no one else. Is to dismiss them with the same touch that conservatives dismiss the poor the underserved and minorities. Simply by assuming they all have the exact same access and opportunity that we do. They don't. Don't be like conservatives and fascists. Yes people absolutely do need to do more to educate themselves. But we absolutely need to make it clear and easier to find proper sources to do that from and encourage them to do that.
When you make assumptions based on your personal experience you've already lost the debate.
Osho
I think Depeche Mode put it better. People Are People. So why should it be, we should treat each other so awfully.
Just remember. If you want to paint with a broad brush categorizing people as idiots. You are numbered with them. We all are. But I would still stand gladly with them shoulder to shoulder. Against any oligarch or Vanguard.