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[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

China scientists

So, Chinese scientists?

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

(acts confused in French)

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's a slightly different connotation. "China scientists" infers scientists residing in China while not presuming their ethnicity, while "Chinese scientists" implies their ethnicity but not their location.

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally never hear "America scientists" even if some of them might be from another country. Same with every single other country I can think of, except China.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

US scientists works in the same way.

[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

Real talk, why is discussion around people and subjects in China so fucking weird?

If it's not referring to the entire population when it only applies to the government or a subset of them as a global "the Chinese" or doing silly shit like "China scientists" everyone's grammatical skills suddenly tank when even broaching a topic even tangential to the PRC.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably because is an ethnicity and nationality. There are ethnic Chinese people all over the world and a few countries and regions are made of a majority of ethnic Chinese but are not related to China. Calling them the same thing is playing into the PRC's "all ethnic Chinese pledge their allegiance to China" nonsense.

[–] Netux@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Isreal like that game of pretend. They believe anti zionist Jews are traitors.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that true for every (older) country though?

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Perhaps but I haven't encountered that myself. I'm ethnic Chinese that's a citizen of another ethnic Chinese majority nation so I've encountered this specific type a lot more.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a reasonable assumption that someone in China is Chinese.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The reverse, however, isn't true. It may be somewhat understandable but not entirely reasonable to assume someone who is Chinese is from China which is what I'm trying to say.

[–] DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously, for me a "China scientist" is someone doing research on China, like a space scientist would do research on astronomy and similar. But I'm not a native English speaker, so, idk

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The wording of the headline would be different if it were trying to convey that.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone doing research on China is a chiologist.

Same as someone doing research on biology is a biologist.

[–] hazl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Biology -> biolog -> biologist

China -> chin -> chinist?

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 8 points 1 year ago

No, it's people who study fine tableware.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago