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If I was a Doctor, I'd just leave. Plenty of countries would welcome a doctor.
Screw the hippocraric oath, Hippocrates is dead and I'm not joining him.
What does the Hippocratic oath have to do with staying in the United States or leaving?
Becuase they'd be leaving a population that is gonna need be in need of doctors so it kinda goes against the part about helping people.
But like, I don't blame them for leaving.
That's a very broad reading of it. Most doctors would feel free to practise medicine elsewhere if politically targeted.
I mean, you're both kind of right. I'm no doctor but it seems like something doctors (good doctors, anyway) would seriously consider in regards to this. On the one hand, they're leaving people to the wolves. On the other, there is nothing you can do in the US if it gets that far that will outweigh the good you can do elsewhere. But then, is that actually true? This isn't the literal same as WWII, it's just extremely similar, a pattern we are able to recognize this time around because it happened before and was well-documented. It's possible that this time, leaving would in fact cause more harm than good. But if you have a family... Well, I can't blame you for protecting your own kids over your patients and their kids, as long as you don't throw someone else under the bus.
It's complicated. When there's that many variables, all you can do is trust your gut. No one can predict the future that well, if at all.
Doesn't the Hippocratic oath basically just say "Do no harm"? I don't think you're morally obligated to work.
It can be hard to leave one's family behind.
Usually you can bring your immidiate family members with you (spouse and children) if its an immigration visa.
As for extended family. You can apply for your parents and siblings after a certain time residing in the new country or upon becoming citizen there.
You can also stay in touch via the internet while waiting.
Well sure, but your family may not wish to come with you. They might have a whole life in the united states they are unwilling to leave behind.
That's a decision for a family conversation.
I was in Mainland China, I didn't make the decision to come to the US either, since I was a kid. My parents decided and that's it. Parent's have to make the decision about the future of their children. If the adults agree, then move. Kids will understand when they grow up.
Learning another language was rough, but eventally, I grew to like this place. Much less pollution, much more diverse people.
(It's a shame how politics can ruin what the US could've been)
That's kids/adults, but consider instead 4 close siblings in their 30s with jobs, and they have to look after their aging parents.
Yea, that's gonna be more difficult.
My aunts/uncles in China just had to take care of my Grandmother until my mom became a citizen and filed a petition for my Grandmother. And now my Grandmother is here.
My mom also filed a petition for my aunts (her sisters) and that also would include their immediate family (their husbands and their unmarried children under 21). But seeing how the politics is now in the US, I'm not sure they would want to come when they get approved (or if they would even get approved). Unlike my parents, who worked shitty jobs in China and therefore the US is a much appealing option; my aunts are teachers, so they have like government pensions and stuff, and their kids would be over 21 when they finally get off the waitlist. (They've been on the waitlist for like almost a decade now. A lot has changed in politics and economy.)
I mean, they talk everyday through wechat, so its not like they are far apart anyways.
It isn’t politics, it’s GOP and fascist politics that ruined the US
That's true, but the demand is still there, and for someone who already went through all the work of getting a PhD getting recertified isn't that big of a deal comparatively.
yea, because MD schools might not be equivalent to those in UK/CANADA, AND USA. i heard its very hard to become a MD as an immigrant even if you have a license already, because they have those qualifications that might be above where you got your license from.
i think its different for a UK/CANADA doctor trying to become one in the US though. its very convoluted and overlycomplicated.
And yet MAGA will wonder out loud why their doctors' appointment wait times are getting longer and longer.
TRANS PEOPLE AND IMMIGRANTS ARE MAKING YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS TAKE LONGER TO SCHEDULE
done
many EU countries need MDs(probably best if your a speciality, and anuerosurgeon) they need to reverse the brain drain.