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A picture of the Ben Affleck Smoking meme, with the caption "Me seeing people on reddit telling other people to go to lemmy.world"

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

hex - defederated from most of the mainstream fediverse.

This is exactly why you should tell people leaving reddit to check it out.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Some people don't come here to talk politics.
There are some people who may just use reddit for non-political stuff, like crafts, gaming and news from their country. Most of that stuff is on lemmy.world.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

We do all that too, we're just cooler. We have DIY comms, anime comms, I run the gaming discord where we mostly just chill and play Foxhole ARMA and project zomboid.

My point is that everything is political and for people that want a nice cozy space that is vigilantly purged of reactionaries and bigots it's a breath of fresh air from the reddit environment that carries over to a lot of the big "default" - as you call them - instances.

Shit half the posts on hexbear are silly jokes, weird special interest stuff, personal projects, or random bean posting. We are just very very militant and fairly unified when topics of politics come up and it has roots in irreverent commie shitposting so that will always be there.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

hexbear does have a lot of non-political comms, but some of the more niche ones are on .world. I think .world is still far better than

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

.world is full of fascists and bigots just as bad as reddit is.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While it does seem to house a lot of bigots, its no where near as bad as reddit. Don't get me wrong, I hate fascists and bigots, but lemmy.world housing them seems to just be a consequence of its size.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No it is a consequence of their moderators tolerating that shit.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

In my experience, the mods remove bigotry (albeit slowly) once reported.

[–] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those people can literally go back to reddit and have their use experience be 100% identical

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Not really. Reddit has gotten really shitty. Not just the community, the actual platform itself.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No thanks, people like that make reddit a miserable experience. Its the same here.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"boo hoo people shit on me for being reactionary"

That is all I get from this comment without further elaboration.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

i'm not getting anything from your comment either, I don't even know what you are talking about. reactionary? people shit on me?

It's just a miserable reading experience even when I don't interact. Hopefully blocking certain instances helps, but what makes me wary is that blocking certain people for example seems to hide the whole threads if someone in the thread is blocked.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what you are talking about. reactionary?

Wait, are you getting involved in political discussions without any familiarity with actual politics? Or even a willingness to google terms to pretend you know what people are talking about?

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What terms should I google then? I'm familiar with the terms i've seen in the thread this far.. Like, I know what reactionary means, I just don't know why they are using that word. .. Are they suggesting disliking communist content is.. reactionary?

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like, I know what reactionary means, I just don't know why they are using that word. .. Are they suggesting disliking communist content is.. reactionary?

Are you suggesting opposing progressive changes to society isn't reactionary?

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm suggesting that communism is not progressive. But i'm not here to argue politics with fools, just to be clear.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well tough luck, because I am, so explain. What about communism, a system that extends democracy from just the government to the entire workplace, seems regressive or part of the status quo? What past condition is it trying to reestablish? Or is this one of those vibes based "akshully Xi was allowed to stand for president more than twice so that makes him a dictator" analyses?

[+] Comtief@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Supremely ironic lmao.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, doubly so, because it applies to you. You two jokers have been derailing this thread so bad.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Derailing this thread by engaging in discussion about the topic the OP posted about. Yeah sure dude.

Let me guess you also are one of the losers that thinks we brigade your posts because they just naturally show up in our feed and we have to dunk on you for being shit.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's with you coming up with things out of nowhere? First you call me a reactionary for no reason. Now you for some reason talk about me blaming you for brigading my posts or something.. I have 0 posts on lemmy lmao. Are you delusional? Fighting with demons there.

Okay let me try to summarize how you two absolute clowns have been derailing this thread.

the poster calls out lemmy[.]ml, lemmygrad[.]ml, lemmy[.]worldhe xbea r[.]net for being communist and he does not want to see that shit
the user mayo_cider thinks he is somehow calling him out by stating that lemmy was made by communists... so what? that doesn't contradict point 1 whatsoever. yes, it was made by communists, but the whole point of a decentralized platform is that it doesn't mean that we have to be see communist drivel somehow. it's not inherently a communist platform.
the op responds with good reasons why he dislikes these instances. lemmy[.]ml - Censorship of pro-ukraine posts and comments lemmygrad - see above; also defederated a lot. lemmy[.]world - too big, has a lot of toxic people, some moderation issues hex - defederated from most of the mainstream fediverse.
you respond to that the hex one is exactly what the people leaving reddit should be told.. fair enough, its your opinion, whatever.
I respond to you that I disagree, I don't want to see that crap, and seeing similar things in reddit made my experience miserable there as well. I just have a different opinion, still all good.
Now you call me a reactionary (which I am not, but thats besides the point). Here you already derailed the topic, its just some personal insult stuff with no actual point behind it. I guess I offended you somehow by not liking hexbear content, go figure. I did not call you a dirty commy or something because of what you said in comment 4. You derailed by making it personal and making no points whatsoever.
now ProfessorOwl_PhD responds to me by claiming i don't know what words mean and i should google. they are wrong with that assumption, but fair enough, all good this far.
I respond to ProfessorOwl_PhD by specifying that I know what words mean and I even make a correct assumption that I was being called a reactionary in comment 6. because I don't like communism.
I don't know why we are talking about this, but fair enough, lets clarify then.
now in that response, ProfessorOwl_PhD, instead of accepting that they misunderstood my comment, they further derail the topic by starting to argue that anyone who opposes communism are reactionary... Why are we talking about this? What does any of this has to do with comments 1-5?
I respond, because why not. But I did not start this and I have very low interest in this derailment. I did not start this and I don't know why we are here. Also, this is where I start to mention that I'm not interested and lets wrap it up. Why would I be interested in this discussion, if my whole point from my comment (5.) is that I don't like to see communist crap in my social media platform? Would it not by extension be clear that I DO NOT enjoy engaging with it?
ProfessorOwl_PhD completely ignores that i'm not interested and tries to get political with me. I'm not interested so at this point I'm not responding to the contents of their comment. This is just further derailment after all.
I respond with stating that their reading comprehension must be really bad because they just refuse to get my point that i'm not interested.
now you step in, somehow finding it ironic that I call them out on their reading comprehension, where i'm implying that i'm not interested. No, it's not ironic, and no, you are saying nothing of value here. Derailing.
Now I call you both out for derailing.
You claim that somehow all these comments (6-14) have been related to the original comments in the thread (1-4). They have not. Also you say some weird schizo shit about brigading that has nothing to do with nothing, even more derailing and personal insults.

Did I clear it up? Probably too confusing for you, let me guess, you will respond with even more points that have nothing to do with anything. You already called me a reactionary and a brigading "victim" for no reason, what fantasies are you coming up next? Don't keep me waiting! Or actually do, I'm not going to respond any more.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Uh you're speaking for OP here and they literally have stated they are fine with hexbear and all the "commie stuff"

You are just pissy because we called you reactionary because that is what you are.

Please write another wall of text I will not read though, it gives me joy to see you are totally not mad.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well tough luck, because I am

nerd ummm reading comprehension sweaty?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

lol thanks for tapping in to absolutely body this nerd for me. I was busy dancing with a bunch of hot people at karaoke night.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I told you i don't want to discuss politics with you fools. Being "tough" is not going to negate that. I'm not going to engage with your nonsense nevertheless. Apparently you fail to understand that.

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And I told you that I don't care. You're the one claiming communism isn't progressive, all I did was ask some very simple questions about how you came to such a ridiculous conclusion and you started throwing out accusations of nonsense. The call's coming from inside the house buddy.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, you two clowns are the ones claiming that i'm a reactionary (which by extension would imply that communism is progressive, because reactionaries deny progressivism and all that jazz), I just disagreed with that. It's not like I just claimed out of nowhere that communism isn't progressive, I just responded to what you asshats started. But you wouldn't get that, reading comprehension and all that.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I just claimed out of nowhere that communism isn't progressive

And you're fucking wrong that is why we are dunking on you.

Here read fucking Einstein. Anyone with any inkling of intelligence knows that capitalism is destructive and counter to human development. You just have fucking brain worms about it because you are a gullible rube who has been fed a deluge of anticommunist propaganda and you lack the mental fortitude to engage critically with any topic political or otherwise.

You are a tool, a stooge for the ruling class. You would sell out your fellow human for a step up on the ladder. You disgust me.

https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

If you don't want to discuss politics then you should go live in a cave away from civilization because what you call "politics" is literally just socializing.