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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

LOL, you think most Americans, let alone most Democrats, support funding genocide abroad?

Also, I love how people constantly blame anyone but the far right and their decades-long efforts for the culmination of donvict slithering into office. No one deserves a shitstain like donvict ruining the country and working to make the entire world worse.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

LOL, you think most Americans, let alone most Democrats, support funding genocide abroad?

Not enthusiastic support, but "Let's wait for Later™ before we do anything about this" is also support. The resulting anti-dissent defensive herd mentality is proof of that. You'll probably defend that as "strategic voting" or "picking your battles" or whatever, but nothing less than a resolute "No" is acceptable as a response to genocide.

No one deserves a shitstain like donvict ruining the country and working to make the entire world worse.

Really? Because I can think of a few names. And in the first place things are only getting worse for the first world; the destruction of the American-European imperial alliance will be met with celebration over here, but let's not lose sight of the point. Keeping your civil rights without opposing genocide was a losing proposition from the very start, and no amount or "hold your nose and vote for her" will change that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Again, the only two choices were: donvict or Kamala. That's it. Nothing else. Best option was to vote Democratic all down the ticket then do everything possible to lean on Democrats to stop supporting Israel.

Keeping your civil rights without opposing genocide was a losing proposition

Exactly WHO was proposing that?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again, the only two choices were: donvict or Kamala. That's it. Nothing else. Best option was to vote Democratic all down the ticket then do everything possible to lean on Democrats to stop supporting Israel.

No. You could've leaned on the Democrats to stop supporting Israel before voting, while they still needed you. Leaning on them after the election would've had absolutely no effect and you know it. Relinquishing your right to act during the only time where you have a chance of success is indistinguishable from inaction, hence Americans chose not to oppose genocide.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Two choices. That's all we had realistically.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, two choices: to resist, or to not resist. You could've admittedly defeat after actually doing something, but with how things actually went down? I'm perfectly willing to say that Trump is America's just desserts.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Keep gloating that we had no anti-genocide candidate.

Both candidates represented you perfectly.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how anything I've said about the situation constitutes "gloating". And no, I don't support genocide.

How is letting donvict into office helping?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

How is letting donvict into office helping?

How is equating opposition to genocide with "letting donvict into office" helping anything? All you're doing is downplaying genocide support, while as always blaming people who don't support genocide for harris' loss.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many Democratic voters were engaged with "genocide support"?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry, I'm not allowed to reply honestly.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

LOL, you think most Americans, let alone most Democrats, support funding genocide abroad?

The centrist wing has no other policy they're willing to actually go to bat for.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm talking about the voters. How many Democratic voters want genocide in Gaza?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, not allowed to reply honestly.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine getting your post removed for "misinfo" when you're saying the truth. clown.world

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm used to it. I came here from reddit.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Same here. It feels .world censors us more than reddit does for Luigi and Israel.