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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 124 points 4 days ago (5 children)

How about the outlet checks and finds out?

I did, and I couldn’t get low-temperature Gemini or a local LLM to replicate it, and not all the tariffs seem to be based on the trade deficit ratio, though some suspiciously are.

Sorry, but this is a button of mine, outlets that ask stupidly easy to verify questions but dont even try. No, just cite people on Reddit and Twitter…

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

though some suspiciously are.

Some? A huge portion are. Numerous others have replicated it with visual proof. I agree that the news sites should be verifying it, but NYT did and also documented their proof.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Appears to be that calculation minimum of 10%

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Am I still going crazy or what, trade deficit =/= tariffs right??

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No you're not going crazy, you just understand economics and trade more than the President of the USA.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That bothers me too. Get an actual expert source to verify before you publish shit from randos on Twitter and Reddit.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

"several X users claim", they say for sources. Christ Almighty.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In this case, it's as simple as "type it into ChatGPT, like the Reddit users did" :/

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"these lazy fucks in the government are using ai to come up with policy"

Also news outlet

"I am too lazy to do the laziest thing I'm angry about, even though it's my literal job"

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

"News outlet" is a huge stretch. It's a crypto currency blog pretending to be news.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But that doesn't confirm or deny that Trumps formula came from ChatGPT, they could both be drawing from some other source.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can generally toggle LLM "grounding" features, aka inserting web searches into their context.

Modern LLMs have a information "cutoff" of a few months ago, at the latest, so the base models will have zero awareness of this formula.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 4 days ago

Unless the formula came from something that already existed that both Trumps people and these models are referencing to come up with the same number.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They tariffed places with no people in them.

[–] Grostleton@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because the article is likely just more GenAI vomit, and an LLM doesn't have any degree of deductive reasoning ability to begin with.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

TBH it's probably human written.

I used to write small articles for a tech news outlet on the side (HardOCP), and the entire site went under well before the AI boom because no one can compete with conveyer belts of of thoughtless SEO garbage, especially when Google promotes it.

Point being, this was a problem well before the rise of LLMs.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you annoyed that they didn't try to replicate it, or that they're disparaging LLMs?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

That they didn’t try to replicate it.