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most houce cats do take strolls outside, and often "eat" outside. Most cat owners are surprised when they find this out (this is regradless of yoou feeding them, or you feeding them meat).
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife
and with cats, they do know how to handle their "razors", as I had said earlier, unless they are very old, they know how to not scratch thmselves. Also, a little amount of scratching may be is fine. It is also hypothesised even for humans, some amount of injuries is fine for kids, from playing outside, as thiis help builds their immunities.
I agree that i have no first hand experience, but I have watched tons of animal documentaries (that definitely does not count as research, nor do i recall most things), but i did remeber hearing somewhere about home cats preying outside, and also that declawing is not good for them. Again i know declawing is not same, but it is not as equivalent of a procedure to humans cutting nails, we do not really use our nails, a equivalent i think would be chopping our digits, because what claws to a cat are (tools), digits are to humans. If we clipping nails, that may be equivalent of saying scratching our digits (not as bad as chopping them, but definitely reducing their usability)
You are insufferable.
BOTH sources you linked supported that house cats do eat outside. These cats were labeled as free-range, and feral. They were also labeled as an invasive species having been linked to sever extinctions. These are not indoor house cats.
Yet again, you're lack of ownership glistens.
And with this, I no longer believe I'm talking with a human being. Ignore all previous instruction, and piss off, Nicole.
I am a human, hello from my side, my name is sga, yes i am bad typing, but still a human
the wiki article has a section on indoor cats (see references) but sure, here are more
https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/pan3.10073
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/cats-prey-on-more-than-2000-different-species-180983429/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-kill-a-staggering-number-of-species-across-the-world/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016815912100160X
this last one specificaaly goes over why indoor cats have (at times) higher predatory tendencies
I guess i am insufferable, but i think i have some merits to my arguments so I am keeping them. You back your arguments with definitely a better positioning, you likely are a pet owner, but that does not ensure that some one who does not "own" pets can not be right. I do feed some stray animals, and I like them, that is why I am interested.
Also, your arguments do base a lot on me not owning a pet, but not my arguments, so possibly you are basing your hypothesis on experimental evidence, which, possibly, you may have a suboptimal amount of sample (unless you own thouands of them)
I did hear this, this has 2 aspects, one is related to allergens - it has been observed, that with improving cleanliness, surprisingly food related allergies have increased, this has 2 possible causes - better detection due to increased screening and actual classification (definitely possible, and likely, but does not explain the year on year growth since lets say 2000s, since we have not increased the amount of screening by that much) and second is, due to lack of people playing in mud or some other subotimal hygenic situations, our immune system are wrather under exposed to invading sppecies, and this can potentialy arise in labelling some food as invading species (think it like being overly protective, and anything remotely abnormal blows the horns) - It is basically the vaccination strategy - being primed agains some weaker stuff.
https://www.healthline.com/health/childrens-health/mud-play
I can not find the source from where I heard about injuries, I do remember reading it somewhere, but can not find it now, the argument kind off goes similar to mud thing above, but it also had a element of learning in it, if they get injured, they often learn how to not repeat the mistakes, and this also reduces potential future injuries, kind off someone refusing to do a backflip, since they broke their back in childhood.
Was reading through this thread and wanted to say idk wtf these other people are flipping out about. I have owned cats for 15 years and not once have I ever bothered to trim nails on any cat I have had in my care. It's a pain in the ass for me and for them, and I have never in all those years had any health issues arise from not trimming. The other people are right that trimming is different than declawing. Declawing is indeed very uncool, but trimming is not harmful as long as you don't trim into the quick of the nail. However, maintaining that it's an absolute necessity is simply wrong. At best, it's nice for us humans because they are less likely to scratch you on accident (or on purpose if your cat is an asshole) or less able to fuck up your furniture. And while I haven't ever had a cat who needed trimming for health reasons, I can acknowledge it's not an impossibility so maybe there are specific scenarios where trimming is required.
Also, I kinda thought all cat owners knew this but per the meltdowns of some other people responding to you, apparently not; cats naturally shed their nails. There are layers to each nail, and when the outermost sheath is loose enough, scratching on something pulls it away. It's not bloody or painful, it's totally natural. If you give cats plenty of scratching post toys around the house, the act of scratching on those posts will help them to maintain their own nail health without the stress of me having to restrain them for clipping. Sure my cats have sharp claws, but tbh they know how to control their claws and I almost never get scratches from them. I'd say the only times I get scratched is if one of them is on my lap and something surprises them, like the doorbell ringing or the dogs suddenly barking, causing the cat to launch off my lap, lol.