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at this point Elon should buy it too, drive it to ground like Twitter.
Huffman needs exactly 0 help to run reddit into the ground. He's been doin' it for years.
It's actually kinda nice that he's not going full nose-dive straight into the ground. Getting a steady stream of users is better for Lemmy's culture, than a full exodus event, imo. It gives us a chance to not be reddit, but something better.
This would actually be a great outcome.
While most people would likely move to Digg v2.0 (I am just being realistic), this will help fuel growth in the threadiverse. And at any rate, the major instances would simply not be able to handle 1 million MAUs immediately moving to Lemmy.
Digg is excited about "AI" moderation. So, they're gonna be going the route of banning users for wrongthink just as Reddit did. I don't think it's going to be that popular.
I watched the video on the Digg.com front page and it was a bunch of very rich dudes sitting on a couch, with the same energy and words of other very rich dudes. I don't think it will be better. They just don't live in the same world.
Normally platforms are around for a while before enshittification kicks in, I see that Digg are cutting straight to the chase before the site even launches.
I probably will check the new Digg out, but I’ve come to the conclusion that all corporate-run social media platforms will go down the road of fucking over their users in the name of profit eventually. I’m not willing to move to another one and build up connections and communities just for some rich fuck to destroy it on a whim. I’m far more interested in helping to build and grow federated platforms like Lemmy so that there is a true alternative outside of their sphere of influence entirely.
It could also just turn it into another nazi mouthpiece, and make getting information out to people even worse than it is now.
I will speculate this is going to happen anyway, sooner or later.
While I am not American, I have lived in the the US and have many close friends there. From my understanding, American oligarchs have gone full in on a proto-fascist state (US is not yet fascist in the formal definition of the term, things can and likely will get worse). This includes Hoffman and not only.
Yes it is. We are already at the dictatorial stage in practice with the legislature and SCOTUS complying voluntarily by not enacting checks and balances. Everything else, like the nationalism, demonizing groups, and the rest are in full swing. Don't need death camps to be fascist, although we are well on our way down that road.
What criteria isn't being met yet in your opinion?
It pains me to see the US go down this path. I am well aware of how bad things are going in the US (I have close friends who live there). I agree with you regarding nationalism, street arrests by security, demonization of minorities and so on.
However, I am comparing my experience living in russia (as an expat who happens to speak russian fluently), my experience living in the US under Obama and US as it is today.
US still has competitive elections. The US centre right opposition is not a formal front for the regime. Compare that to russia were elections are a formality and the so called "opposition parties" get direct orders from the regime and exist as circus performers. US isn't at that stage yet.
Same with the US judicial system. It is definitely corrupt (and this was true even before Trump) and it is getting even more corrupt. However, the US judicial system has some level of independence and at least on some level you can have your rights be respected. Again, compare that to russia were the judicial system as such does not exist and has no authority whatsoever.
Security services in the US are increasingly becoming unhinged and acting more like crooks, but it's no where close to russia where they have zero liability beyond not respecting key regime interests.
US still has a measure of political de-centralization. You can elect mayors and governors and they have a measure of independence. While russian does have some regional independent power centres, they are still all aligned with the regime and its ideology.
I know, comparing your local political system to russia isn't really a sane approach. But I do think it is important to note that the differences do exist.
Fascism and other authoritarian systems aren't a measuring contest though. Just because somewhere else has been doing it longer or is more effectively doesn't mean somewhere else isn't doing or trying to do the same thing.
A benevolent dictatorship is still a dictatorship for example. While the Republicans have enacted widespread voter suppression that didn't guarantee winning an election, that doesn't mean they aren't working on the steps to guarantee it in the next election. Fascism doesn't require complete and total success to be fascism.
I completely agree. I don't mean to imply it is a competition. As I said, being better than russia is not much of an achievement.
But I do think the correct term for the US as it is today is proto-fascist. It's also important to not ignore the transition into full scale fascism.
I think the piece that has yet to be tested is elections. As of now, we still live under the pretense that we will have a fair election.
The case can be made that the voter suppression tactics from the far right are eliminating the possibility of a fair election. Or that Elon Musks involvement has led to fraud, or at least, massive corruption to our electoral system. But at the end of the day, we still have a collective idea that the fix for this is an election that will remove them from power.
When the midterms come, that will be the real test.
because they are also taking orders from russia, Europes closest to russia side is HUNGARY in the EU.
they saw trump as thier last grift, before things change. i mentioned on reddit subs, that the gops last grasp for power was trump(during his 1st term), and they will do whatever it takes to maintain it for another 5-10years, before people get sick of them. even thier voters, they can fool stupid people forever, since you would get tire of repitive messaging down the line.
Meh. I joined Reddit in the original great Digg exodus, I'm not going back.
Are people actually going? The only thing I've heard about it (the AI-fueled reboot) is that it was planned.
It’ll be corporate owned and centralized, so I don’t care at all.
digg isn't alive again yet afaik.
Personally I am done with corporate controlled social media sites. Just need a replacement for Youtube now.
Anyone on reddit still saying they're waiting for digg 2.0 is not serious about leaving.
and it will invite all the trolls, racists and right wingers with it.
I don't like that solution because that means Huffman walks away with a golden payday instead of losing it all.
Maybe he'll get bored with retirement, have a mid-no-life crisis and the resulting breakdown will generate some interesting news stories.