“If you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again,” Vance replied. Hegseth agreed that “I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.” But, he added, “we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this.”

Miller, the Trump confidant, effectively ended the conversation by saying that the president had been clear. “Green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.”

Edit: The texts are released to public

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

What’s incredible is the extent kool aid is being drunk.

It’s easy to imagine the admin's distaste of Europe being largely theatre for self serving purposes, but no, they really look down on Europe. They really view a purely transactional, begrudging relationship as desirable, like old allies are just filthy liberals.

…I guess this is another Nazi parallel. Where some parties/groups thought the antisemitism was partially for show.

But also, that is bonkers. Disconnecting from Europe will devastate the US, just to start. The Nazis were at least coldly pragmatic, but it feels like ideology has completely detached much of our country from reality, and it goes down the whole stack.

[–] Clasm@ttrpg.network 16 points 4 days ago

Disconnecting from Europe will devastate the US, just to start.

This has been the goal from the start.

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