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In the piece — titled "Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?" — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

10 - 30 grand

Decent LIDAR sensors have gotten a lot cheaper in the last 5 years or so, here's one that is used in commercial self-driving taxis: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/X01-36020021-Nev-Auto-Parts-for_1601252480285.html

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Shit that's pretty decent. That looks like a ready fit car part, I wonder what vehicle it's for. Kind of sucks that it only faces One direction but at that price four them would not be a big deal

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I can't find what it goes to, but it looks like Baidu and the US company Zoox use them in their robotaxis.

Edit: Lixiang models L9, L8, and L7 use that sensor.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

In the one picture it has a MAC address in the top so it has some type processor in there with networking.

Shame it still just robotaxis. Then again maybe That's where we're headed and everybody just rents all their rides. Kind of disappointing really.

[–] KlausWintergreen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So that one sensor is $700. Waymo has 4 LIDAR sensors (all of which are physically larger and I would imagine fancier than the Alibaba ones, but that's speculation), so just in the scanner hardware itself you're looking at $2,800. Plus the computer to run it, plus the 6 radar receivers, and 13 cameras, I could absolutely see the price for the end user to be around $10k worth of sensors.

But to be clear, I don't think camera only systems are viable or safe. They should at minimum be forced to use radar in combination with their cameras. In fact I actually trust radar more than lidar because it's much less susceptible to heavy snow or rain.