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Orange site censoring posts left and right as US descends further into fascism (news.ycombinator.com)

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The tech bro hive mind on HN is furiously flagging (i.e., voting into invisibility) any submissions dealing with Tesla, Elon Musk or the kafkaesque US immigration detention situation. Add "/active" to the URL to see.

The site's moderator says it's fine because users are "tired of the repetition". Repetition of what exactly? Attempts to get through the censorship wall?

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"high-indignation, high-intensity hot topics [...] intensely held, pre-existing positions" "not a curious conversation"

Yeah to hell with this guy. Calling this a "hot topic" and "not a curious conversation" as if it were in the same realm as tan suits and cybertrucks is a huge disservice, especially given how complicit Silicon Valley has been in all this.

I don't know if y'all have seen the video the US government put out showing off their extrajudicial human rights abuses, but seriously consider skipping it. It's dark dark Nazi shit. The most disturbing thing I've seen in my life and I wish I hadn't seen it.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

OK hate reading this thread now:

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I wouldn’t describe them [Border Patrol] as nationalistic or fascist. There’s no need to bring in any sort of political view…

Heck this guy for downplaying fascism

This is how American immigration has always worked.

Heck this guy for downplaying the recent totally obvious escalations

Immigration enforcement isn't pretty anywhere, but also happens everywhere. For instance literally every single story of somebody being detained/deported from anywhere for working without a work permit is going to be a sad story

Heck this guy for normalizing what's going on

You mean those few hundred gang bangers that were brutal enough that even their home countries wouldn't accept them back?

Heck this guy for trusting, unconditionally, the feds when they claim people without criminal backgrounds (but omg tattoos) are hardened violent criminals.

So the Canadien was deported for illegally being in the USA, got caught and deported, and then got caught again for illegally entering the USA again?

Heck this guy for being generally oblivious to that horror story that was all over the news

On the other is the story, which may or may not be clickbait intended as outrage-engagement.

Heck this guy for being willfully obtuse

It says clearly in the article that she violated the terms of her visa according to ICE. Her parents never mention what the violation was. The idea she was deported for doing some chores around the house is laughable.

Heck this guy for not choosing kindness

Well, the unfortunate tourist lady was taken into custody for a suspicion to attempt to work illegally as a house help. Not sure why her family panic so much, as they live in UK, when you can go in chains for posting something on twitter or liking "inappropriate" content

Heck this guy for not choosing kindness

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The incuriosity, not just in how things are, but also in how things could be changed, and even if things are really necessary.

Just 'regels zijn regels' shit. (Sorry living in .nl is great, it just has a few big flaws. Like people shouting 'regels zijn regels', who never apply those rules to themselves as well (it also amuses me a bit that this will look a bit like german so it looks like I'm doing a Godwin to people just glancing over my post)).

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I suppose it'd be Regeln sind Regeln in German, though I don't know if that's an actual saying there or not.

I just started learning German recently* and so far it's a lovely language. I've already noticed how similar Dutch is just from browsing Wiktionary. Wiktionary is great because it has a declension / conjugation chart for every word I've tried -- a lot of dictionaries kind of assume you already know the grammar basics.

* As part of some in-progress US exit plans I'm not ready to talk about just yet because they might still fall through

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 18 hours ago

Wonder if it would be more 'die regeln sind die regeln', but my German is quite poor. I can understand it a little bit, but can't really speak it.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 17 points 1 day ago

omfg

I wouldn’t describe them [Border Patrol] as nationalistic

What exactly is the role of border patrol if not to literally enforce nationalism