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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The reason they do this is because of licensing contracts. They have to use the rights or lose them.

It's also why Batman doesn't show up in TV and Movies lately, Disney has the rights because they purchased Fox even though WB owns the character.

READ YOUR CONTRACTS, CHILDREN.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Batman is a DC character, not Marvel. So Disney doesn't own them.

Batman had a live action film in 2022, with a sequel in production.

Batman cameoed in an animated TV series earlier this year.

Batman had his own animated TV series on Amazon last year, with a second season planned.

Batman appears in animated films about once a year.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

If you're talking about the flash cameo, many fans were quick to point out that it had its ears digitally removed. That wasn't BatMan. That was Man.

20th Centurt Fox owned the televised rights to Batman, meaning without permission from Disney there are no new televised appearances of him. Even the Batman animated series were on Fox.

I think even Teen Titans original series excluded Batman.

There are different rights and types of ownership for these things. One person can own the merchandising rights while another owns the rights to distribute media.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The animated Batman cameo was Creature Commandos.

The Amazon show was Batman: Caped Crusader.

James Gunn recently (a year ago) debunked the rumor that Disney owns Batman in some way, https://screenrant.com/batman-tv-rights-james-gunn-disney-rumor/

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh James Gunn made a four word tweet about it? That totally convinces me. Thanks for that. /s

You can come up with as many examples as you want, examples of times they had permission, but the fact remains that studios go far out of their way to obscure batman, digitally alter his appearance, or exclude him entirely. So this rumor won't die that easily. Truly the dark knight, brooding in the shadows just out of frame.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I know you've said you're not convinced... But then you also called it a rumor that won't die?

For Creature Commandos here is a whole interview where James Gunn says Batman again and again. He has made creative decisions to limit his appearance, but it's 100% Batman.

If course that article isn't even 100% correct best we actually see a dead Batman earlier in the same series as part of a premonition.

Also James Gunn isn't just "some guy" he's the Co-chairman and Co-CEO of DC Studios. This isn't Kevin Feige having to drag out Amy Pascal or Sony Everytime they mention Spider-Man. This is a clear statement.

Disney does not control the rights to Batman. MAYBE they have some residual rights to older content, but nothing recent.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like you're stuck on loop with these examples where batman makes an appearance or reference but I've already explained to you so many times that this can happen in the theory I presented but they require permission to do it.

DC is owned by Warner Bros who is a competitor (in the most uneven sense possible) to Disney which owns Fox who from the 1960s to at least the 1990s owned the rights to televise Batman.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My point is that they don't require permission anymore. Disney does not own Batman in any of his recent work. Batman can pop up anywhere and anytime and Disney does not need to OK anything, they are not involved.

So the argument that the reason we don't see Batman on TV and movies recently is because of Disney is false. Both because Disney is not involved and because yes, yes we have seen him on both big and small screen recently.

There are no existing articles to support the idea that Disney owns/controls current day Batman.

There are rumors that they do, but even those rumors confuse things like the Gotham TV series airing on Fox having anything to do with who owns the rights to Batman. For example as I stated earlier, an animated Batman show ran on Amazon, that doesn't mean Amazon owns the rights to Batman either, just those specific streaming rights.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They're still hiding or obfuscating their most popular character. Even your James Gunn interview admitted they were intentionally limiting his screen time. I don't think this is some 4D Chess Game by Gunn, I think they simply don't have the authority, that is the evidence I've presented.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, "you think" based on... What?

My source is the CEO of DC, your source is...?

Gunn was clear why the screen time was limited, they hadn't yet decided how they wanted to use Batman.

Of course that's specifically for their universe.

There is no quote of him saying that the Matt Reeves Batman film can't do X. Or that The Penguin TV show couldn't include Batman. In fact, here's another article about Batman not showing up in The Penguin . No one is taking about Disney/Marvel being the reason.

And in case the thought process is, well maybe they don't want to talk about that stuff, here is an article talking about Spider-Man not being in a live action TV series .

If Disney/Marvel we're involved with Batman, we would know. There would be articles. At the moment, no such article exists. If you want to believe something based on no information, that's fine, just be aware that there is nothing to support that claim.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

Bro fr just making things up.