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Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Must be nice to be a wealthy, single, white man who knows he won't suffer under a Trump admin.

Fuck the rest of the country, right? And our overseas allies.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Like I said, if America is collectively dumb enough to vote Republicans into power after everything that's happened then another 4 years of a boring Democrat isn't going to fix that problem. If we're headed for some sort of collapse I'd rather deal with that now rather than later. Call that what you like but it's not my way of doing things that got us in this mess in the first place so you'll have to forgive me if I don't put much stock in your "keep doing the same things and hope something magically changes" approach.

I personally believe someone in the Bernie Sanders mold has a better chance of pulling in moderate voters than a Joe Biden does.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry but the idea that Bernie Sanders brings in moderate voters is obliterated by the fact that he gets blown out in primaries because of moderate voters

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's correct to assume politics is a sliding scale from left to right, and failing to appeal to democratic primary voters is a certainty of failure in a general election. I would paint democratic primary voters as very in favor of the institutions and systems of this country, and I don't think republican votes are fans of either.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

They're most assuredly not fans of socialism, which is what they view progressives as espousing.

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure plenty would vote against him for being a socialist, but I also think a good number would agree with his criticism of greedy billionaires ripping off sick people, or huge companies paying less in taxes than they do. I don't think everyone that voted for Trump was an absolute right wing nut, I think a good number of them think 'both parties are bullshit and at least Trump is outside the system'.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I'm aware that you think this, but if this were true he wouldn't lose by 3 million votes.

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Again, the democratic primary voter is not a representation of the entire countries values, and those that hated Obama, and hated Hillary, are more likely to vote for someone that is willing to criticize the system than long standing democratic insiders.

Ultimately at this point I don't care to constantly speculate on possible differences in past elections. My point was to hopefully convey that the idea of political views of the people in America as a left-right slider is flawed, and the current selection process biases towards mild candidates that fundamentally are not effective enough in solving the problems we are facing.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Strong disagree. Populists can't govern and Biden and Obama can and could

[-] flop@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'm aware that you think this

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