They have pretty awesome powertrains and the infotainment is decent. I can sorta see the allure. That said, I'd rather have the EQE sedan, the i5 wagon or maybe the EX90 if I was looking for an EV right now. We make a lot of decent cars here in Europe (okay I haven't really looked where any of those are assembled, but they're Euro companies at least).

As for the fart sounds - honestly that's one of the better things about the car if you ask me. The engineers had a childish sense of humour, big deal. So do I. I'd be more worried about the somewhat crappy interior quality for the price, or the lack of a speedometer near the driver's normal field of view.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Teslas were fine several years ago when Elon was “just” a massive prick. Every auto company executive was probably just as big of a prick but didn’t advertise their prickness on social media.

Now Elon has revealed he is a nazi trying to destroy multiple governments. Anyone buying this car is either so out of touch with reality that somehow they’ve missed all this or is secretly a fascist sympathizer.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

No they weren’t. They broke from the weirdest shit, like getting rained on, and their repair policy is garbage.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, they really weren't. Maybe for people more into gadgets than cars.

But they do have an unbelievable recall counts for such a shallow fleet.

https://www.cars.com/research/tesla/recalls/?page_size=10

[–] Gawdl3y@pawb.social 2 points 16 minutes ago

The vast majority of the "recalls" are just over-the-air software updates to improve behavior/fix bugs. The NHTSA didn't distinguish a routine software update from an actual recall at all until last December.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Even if we ignore the muskrat I'm worried about:

They fail the first MOT in Denmark.
The dash that forces you to look at a screen to operate.
The emergency door handles you have to practice finding.
The accidents caused by the large engine.

And then there's how they service their cars and the OTA updates.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna agree with you on the middle two points as I can't be arsed to look up the story about Denmark so I'll just ignore it, but what's that about the large motor(s) causing accidents? That sounds more like user error to me. To Tesla's credit, they even have a "chill mode" acceleration setting that makes it way less sensitive.

I'll admit I've only ever driven one Model Y LR, but even on the full power setting, while it had impressive acceleration, it never felt like I was going to kill myself by looking at the accelerator pedal wrong.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The issue in Denmark while true, is exacerbated by the brakes not being used due to regen braking which can cause rust to appear on the pads. You fail if there's rust.

You need to use the brakes more often to avoid the rust and or do some intentional hard braking to clear it if it builds up.

That wasn't the only problem, but it was a significant factor.

Edit: another one that I don't know if it impacts the test, is the model 3s front control arms were prone to getting water in them. There was a service bulletin to seal them, but even that wasn't always enough. So that's a pretty common repair item on older models 3s, the result of which is squeaking while driving, but not saftey impact to the vehicle or driver.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah nobody beats then on range per euro, but luckily a lot of people think there’s more to a car than just that. They are also known for very confrontational customer service and refusing to even comment when confronted by the media.

We went with the Polestar 2 and Cupra Born.
The i4 m50 is also a cool option in the same-ish price range.
EX90 is the «dream» car, but it’s too costly. Maybe a used Polestar 3 in the future. It’s the same platform, just a bit smaller.

EX90 is built in the US for western markets, China for Asia.
I5 and EQE in Germany for western markets, China for Asia.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

They are also known for very confrontational customer service

In China, a customer who complained about their quality got sued by them and now owes them a huge amount of money. For talking about something that was a factual issue.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Huh, I thought the Polestar 2 was a lot more than it apparently is. I thought it was near EX90 pricing.

Yeah I agree, I want more from a car than just efficiency and power. Most cars I've owned, the interior is genuinely a nice place to be. The marques so far (and there have been multiple of some) have included Audi, BMW, MB, one Porsche, a Chrysler and now a Subaru. Minus the one MB that I got preowned at 3 years, they've all been over a decade old, yet they've felt pretty damn nice to sit in. The Chrysler (300M, not to be confused with 300 or 300C) and the Porsche (well optioned Cayenne S 955) felt pretty special I'd even say. Those two cars are the ones I miss the most, but their fuel economy stings hard. Admittedly the Chrysler with its V6 and 4 speed auto was still less thirsty than the Subaru.

[–] Glent@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Sure that was the "engineers" idea