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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Tbh, this is why I didn't entertain the idea of signing it. It's a bad precedent if nothing else.

Now, what are the treason laws in Canada?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Treason

(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,

(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;

(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;

( c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);

(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or

(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.


Basically, the US government would atually have to use force to overthrow the government, and we would have to be able to prove in court that Elon participated in those actions.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Sedition maybe?

Sedition

59 (1) Seditious words are words that express a seditious intention.
(2) A seditious libel is a libel that expresses a seditious intention.
(3) A seditious conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to carry out a seditious intention.
(4) Without limiting the generality of the meaning of the expression seditious intention, every one shall be presumed to have a seditious intention who
(a) teaches or advocates, or
(b) publishes or circulates any writing that advocates,
the use, without the authority of law, of force as a means of accomplishing a governmental change within Canada.

Emphasis mine.

"Force" is a broad term, and doesn't necessarily imply violence. Trump has indicated he would use economic force on Canada to get us to capitulate. Musk is working with Trump very closely, and said Trudeau wasn't "governor" anymore.

At this time, it would probably be easier to make that charge stick. I don't know if "force" has a concrete legal definition.

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