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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The people complaining hardest are the ones who called democrats genocidal fascists and refused to vote. This site was filled to the brim with anty Democrat posts at election time, now it’s filled with “why aren’t they doing anything??” Posts, it’s the same people

[–] sierramccharlie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

TBF I voted extra hard for Harris and I'm still wondering why Democrats are voting yes on Trumps cabinet picks and why an 83 year old Bernie Sanders is out drumming up the masses while Hakeem Jefferies tells Jon Stewart that we're all too stupid to know how amazing Democrats are.

ALSO, Democrats don't seem to give a shit about the genocide, including you. So IDK what the fuck you expect me to say. I voted for harm reduction because I knew exactly what Trump was going to do, but that doesn't mean I gave up all of my rights to complain about the shit job that Democrats do.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

You need to understand that American non-voters are unironically fucking stupid. They heard you complaining about Democrats and that just reinforced their decision to not vote for anyone.

Its simple cause and effect.

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 4 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They've spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren't trusted.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

I agree.

We still should have prevented Trump from winning by more people voting Democrat.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 0 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

And then what? Get 4 more years of a genocidal Cop in the white house further normalizing "tough on the border" policies and genocidal foreign policy. And then follow it up with another Republican with even more of a "mandate" to murder immigrants and bomb brown kids? America has been a dictatorship of the capitalist class since it's founding. Voting for president is like voting for a temporary court jester. It doesn't change who runs this country. It only changes which interest of the ruling class are served.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

What has the Democrats offered in the face of growing inequality and increasing power of corporations?

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That is irrelevant. You don't seem to understand the point I'm making. I'm saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.

And knowing that there are so many American's like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they'll feel like they're aligning with the "bad guys" if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Why should people vote for a party that do not even want to resolve the most pressing issues that affect their daily lives?

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

To prevent fascists from taking power.

[–] Domino@lemmings.world 1 points 17 minutes ago (1 children)

To prevent fascists from taking over, we should elect corpos who will constantly push us on a rightward trajectory towards fascism.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 11 minutes ago

Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That'll show the fascists!

[–] lemminator@lemmy.today 2 points 39 minutes ago (1 children)

I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can't say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say "Genocide is bad, and we won't support it" and they wouldn't. They are the baddies

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -1 points 24 minutes ago

I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys

No I'm not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.

And TBH, I don't want to help stupid people if they're going to keep dragging me into the mud. I've worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I'm done swimming up a waterfall.