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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True. But in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, "widely applicable" and "allegorical" are nearly synonymous. But I'm also a fan of the quote, history does not often repeat itself - but it rhymes. So whether it's fictional history or rough allegory, the end result is the same.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, “widely applicable” and “allegorical” are nearly synonymous

Ha. You're the second person to have suggested that, so maybe there is something to it. But to be honest I'm not sure I agree. I don't think I'd ever use the term allegory without authorial intent. (But to save repeating myself, I'll just direct you to my reply to @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz.)

Or, at the very least, even if you are inclined to disregard authorial intent, there's still a subtle difference between allegory and applicability in that allegory requires an almost direct one-to-one relationship between the text and various elements of the real world, while applicability can be much more subtle or broad strokes. Basically, applicability is a broader term than allegory, a superset.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Dear sir, may I refer you to my previous rebuttal to the esteemed colleague @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz

I can't xD