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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Denuclearization is a good thing.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes it's a good thing, but the US is utterly devoid of honour and trustworthiness and there's no chance they will actually follow through with denuclearizing their own arsenal, so this proposal is meaningless and no country should take it seriously.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

True. The US is the only country that ever used them and the only country where politicians regularly threaten to use them. Somehow though they get to act as if they are the only ones that can be trusted with them.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

A good thing for the country with bigger conventional warfare capabilities, none sovereign country is giving up their nuclear deterrence after what happened to Libya.

[–] ycnz@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is nominally a good thing. In the real world, however, I'd be working as hard as possible to ensure I had a nuclear program to discourage specifically Donald, Putin, and Elon

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Those three aren't as bad as Netanyahu and he too has nuclear weapons.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they will denuclearize in the same way North Korea did after Trump negotiated.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why would North Korea denuclearize when the US still hasn't?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But Trump made a deal. The best deal in the history of deals.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did the US uphold its end of the deal?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as I remember, the US interpreted "their end of the deal" differently than NK did.

That's exactly my point: Trump will "negotiate" the same way, will brag about a "deal" in the same way, and nothing will change in the same way, because both sides aren't really interested in substantial change in the same way.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As far as I remember, the US interpreted “their end of the deal” differently than NK did.

And they will do it again. And again and again and again.

Deals with the US aren't worth the paper they're written on.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Deals with the US aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

The ethnic cleansing of North America happened one treaty at a time.

https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

USians can't possibly comprehend other countries having agency.