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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm trying to, but Proton made me throw up in my mouth a little.

Now I have the option to do everything I was doing, but poorly AND spread across 3 vendors.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

What's wrong with proton? It works pretty well for me.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 hours ago

CEO publicly praised Trump and the Republican party. It's not the political alignment you'd want from the CEO of a service where privacy is their main selling-point.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

True, works fine.

Then they said they didn't log IP's then handed over one of their users IP's that got an activist locked up.

There there was the bootlicking incident (it's a paywall but you get the gist before it disappears)

https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

He praised Trump publically, not a great look, but whatever, then tried to say he was not being political, while being even more political. His PR department swooped in to Reddit and started posting straw man attacks. I don't trust their CEO at this point. If it were any other just email company, I'd be down with it, but their whole schtick is security and privacy, and apparently, they're led by an idiot.

If I'm taking my shit out of google, I'm not taking to some place that's positioned to be more of the same if I can help it, and they really appear to be more of the same.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah alright. I personally don't care that much about the CEOs political opinions as long as that isn't reflected in the business itself.

I had to look for more information on the IP logging thing since I didn't know much about it. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/

Personally I don't think it's that bad. It was absolutely misleading but not a lie.

I mostly care about no logging policies when it comes to VPN and as long as the content of the emails are encrypted/not logged, I don't mind that much.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

CEO went full maga, was given an opportunity to correct, then doubled down. After receiving blowback he tripled down and then started lashing out at customers using official channels.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

After receiving blowback he tripled down and then started lashing out at customers using official channels.

damn, i only followed the dramma for the first couple posts, do you mind posting a link to read the third one?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

I’m not sure if this covers everything, I don’t have access to Reddit. https://sh.itjust.works/post/31843393