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submitted 1 year ago by qooqie@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

With the new computer and the newer Microsoft Windows updates they have really jam packed their OS with bloat and spyware. That being said I have no idea what I’m doing with Linux, need help with where to start.? What are some general tips? I understand there’s a lot of prebuilt Linux distributions or something what are some first timer friendly ones? Really any help is appreciated because the biggest barrier to entry is the perceived difficulty of actually doing it.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As others have said, Linux Mint is probably the best distro for absolute beginners. You'll have several desktop environments to choose from (the software suite that gives you things like window frames, the taskbar, the application launcher...). I like KDE Plasma and Cinnamon - Plasma is a lot more customizable, but Cinnamon is more robust and (IMO) better suited for beginners.

You'll have to unlearn a lot of Windows habits.

  • :q! is very important, remember it.
  • You won't download application installers from the internet, you'll have to either use the system's own package manager in the terminal (APT for Mint), a GUI front-end, or Flatpak.
  • You won't be able to choose where software are installed.
  • There are no lettered drives. There is a single root filesystem (equivalent to C:\ on Windows), and every other partition has to be mounted somewhere within that filesystem. Most graphical file manager applications take care of that automatically.
  • Updates are very important. Fortunately they are much less of a pain in the ass. Graphical package manager apps usually offer automatic reminders, or you can use the terminal to update manually.
  • The terminal is much more important compared to Windows, and you should learn basic things like navigating the filesystem, handling files and directories, how to use sudo (eq. run as admin), how to manage running processes (top, kill/pkill/killall), and how to use the package manager.
  • Use manuals and the man command. The Arch Wiki is an invaluable tool for every distribution.
  • Ask your questions. There will be dickheads, but most people will be happy to help.
[-] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I swear to God this is my biggest gripe with Linux, not being able to choose where stuff gets installed. Like yeah cool I want to have the OS on a SSD but that doesn't mean I also want my packages to go to it too, the HDD is for that

[-] VoltaicGRiD@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Ozzy @rtxn I just thought of this, could one, create symbolic links that point to /lib (for ex.) to "repoint" the directory a package gets installed to?

Not sure if this would work, but was curious if someone's attempted it before.

[-] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I was thinking the same thing too, technically if we would recreate the file structure on the second drive, move everything there and set up soft links to those folders instead it might work? I need to try it out in a vm

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

Some directories can be moved, but you risk messing up your boot process if /lib, /etc, /bin, /sbin, and /dev are not on your root partition. Having /usr on a separate partition is sort-of possible, but even on Gentoo that's an uncommon configuration, and I'd expect less flexible distros not to allow it at all. /var, /opt, /root, and /home can be wherever, though.

It may be possible to put only selected files in your /lib and so on, and then mount another partition on a different drive on top of the minimal one late in the boot process, or even to stopgap things with a carefully-designed initramfs, but I think you'd be looking at some trial and error (and make it more difficult to update basic system packages).

Also, defining what is "just the OS" on Linux is not as easy as you may think. The smallest possible configuration that will get you a running system is a Linux kernel + busybox (a set of cut-down system tools that includes a simple init system, a shell, and a basic device manager). Most of what your distro packages is not part of the OS, strictly speaking—it's optional add-ons that the people making the distro think most users will find useful.

[-] VoltaicGRiD@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@Ozzy Exactly what I was thinking. Kind of a PiTA if everyone needed to do that, but maybe an excuse to throw up an open-source script on github for it.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I had no idea this exists and it looks like it might just work, thank you

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