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U.S. President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants his country to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are displaced elsewhere.

"We will own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site," Trump said at the start of a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"I do see a long-term ownership position," Trump said when asked about the U.S. controlling the territory for an extended period, adding that he is not ruling out sending U.S. troops in to secure Gaza.

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Trump's comments came hours after he suggested that displaced Palestinians in Gaza be "permanently" resettled outside the war-torn territory.

"You can't live in Gaza right now. I think we need another location," Trump said earlier Tuesday.

"I think it should be a location that's going to make people happy. You look over the decades, it's all death in Gaza. This has been happening for years. It's all death. If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people, permanently, in nice homes where they can be happy and not be shot and not be killed and not be knifed to death like what's happening in Gaza."

Trump has previously called on Jordan, Egypt and other Arab countries to take in Palestinians temporarily while Gaza is reconstructed after the devastating war between Hamas and Israel, which was paused in January by a ceasefire. Tuesday was the first time he has publicly floated making that resettlement permanent.

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[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I get what he is saying but that doesn't mean its gonna happen. There is no way this is anything more than trump ranting out his ass. Do you not remember that 90% of what he says is just hot air? If you keep listening to everything trump says and worrying that he will really do it you are going to be really miserable for the next 4 years (provided he doesn't do away with term limits) What trump says and what he ends up doing are 2 different things. The man talked about injecting bleach to cure covid ffs.

If the fascists society of isisrael couldn't do it what makes you think america could when everything has to be shipped half way round the world? Do you think an america abrams tank is going to fare any better than a merkava which was designed specifically for the conditions? Do you think america can ship as many tanks as isisrael had a year and a half ago? Do you think american soldiers are any better trained than the idf? They will eat shit every bit as hard as the zionist entity did.

american soldiers aren't raised to dehumanize and hate Gazans. They will have way bigger issues starving and murdering women and children than the idf. Most of them aren't chomping at the bit for genocide and if they are they want to do it closer to home. The reason for the war wasn't enough to keep the israelis fighting why would american troops be willing to fight and die for a pile of rublle the zionists weren't willing to fight for?

You have to pass everything trump says through the filter of "is this really a thing he could do" 90% of the time the answer is "no"

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly I think it would be leagues more unpopular in America if Hamas videos come out of troops eating sniper rounds than in Israel when IDF troops were eating them. This war would be shockingly unpopular and I'm certain he knows it and won't chance it.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

We were in Afganistan for 20 years.

The second time in Iraq? Basically 15 ish years.

And we are currently in a situation where Trump is just outright cracking down on the media, way, way more brutally than Bush ever did...

War can't be as unpopular if no one ever sees those videos.

Also ... have you talked to a MAGAtard recently?

They're way, way fucking more insanely doublethink delusion dedicated to dear leader than any Republican, I wouldn't be surprises that if something like massive anti war protests happened, or anti war activists organized, Trump would just deputize the proud boys and 3%ers and that kinda shit to just do SA/SS style crackdowns domestically.

I hope to fucking hell you're right and I'm wrong.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I agree with you that it isn't certain this will actually happen.

But it is what he is saying, and other countries are going to take this seriously.

It is 100% absolutely a possible thing the US military could do, if ordered to, and this didn't cause ... well, basically a post soviet union collapse style military loyalty breakdown/coup/treason/de facto secession clusterfuck.

If the fascists society of isisrael couldn't do it what makes you think america could when everything has to be shipped half way round the world?

Have you heard of the Gulf War?

Or the 2nd Iraq War?

Or the US Navy?

... How do you think all our shit got over there?

We sailed it and flew it over to Saudi Arabia, mainly, and staged it all there, I believe within something like 3 months.

Remember when Biden ordered the seabees to build a port for humanitarian aid, and that was done in like a month or less, and then he just kinda forgot about it?

The US is absolutely logistically capable of this.

Pete Hegseth runs the DoD.

Rules of Engagement? Eh, fuck em, warcrimes are legal, adopt the Israeli RoE, kill whoever you want.

Do you think an america abrams tank is going to fare any better than a merkava which was designed specifically for the conditions?

For starters, it doesn't need to 'fare better', it just needs to exist and be reasonably able to withstand IEDs and RPGs and drones.

Also, we've got the SEPv3 and TUSK variants, they're arguably more capable as tanks, only 'edge' the merkava has over an one of those Abrams is that they also hold some infantry....

But they went with that design and doctrine because they need every one of their tanks to also be a psuedo IFV, because they have far less vehicles overall:

The US has 5000 Abrams in active duty, 3600 in storage, reserves.

6.7k Bradleys

4.5k Strykers.

By comparison, Israel has about 400 to 500 Merkavas.

1360 of varying kinds of APC/IFVs.

The US could deploy roughly 1/15 of its existing heavy land combat vehicles and it would be the same quantity as the entire IDF.

We have more twice the number of tanks, in storage than the IDF has IFV/APCs.

... There's a reason we are 'The Great Satan.'

Do you think america can ship as many tanks as isisrael had a year and a half ago?

Yes, easily.

We very recently shipped a whole lot of HIMARS and other heavy vehicles to Ukraine.

Do you think american soldiers are any better trained than the idf? They will eat shit every bit as hard as the zionist entity did.

Yes. American soldiers are volunteers, many of whom make careers out of it. The IDF has mandatory military service for 2 years and thus has proportionally far more inexperienced conscripts.

Sure, there will be American casualties, but there are a lot more American soldiers and Marines than IDF infantry.

We also tend to have signidicantly more body armor on our average infantry than the IDF.

Oh right! I think the Army is also actually starting to get issued the new, higher caliber, longer ranged, Sig Spear / M7s, which pretty much outclass the IDF's 5.56 Tavors in every way.

american soldiers aren't raised to dehumanize and hate Gazans. They will have way bigger issues starving and murdering women and children than the idf. Most of them aren't chomping at the bit for genocide and if they are they want to do it closer to home. The reason for the war wasn't enough to keep the israelis fighting why would american troops be willing to fight and die for a pile of rublle the zionists weren't willing to fight for?

I very, very much hope you are right.

Unfortunately, most of the military people I've known, are pretty gung ho MAGAtards...

And its entirely possible that refusing to follow an order you don't agree with would court martial, military prison.