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"Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project". Thoughts on this post from Marcan? (social.treehouse.systems)

submitted 1 day ago by TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.world

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Behold, a Linux maintainer openly admitting to attempting to sabotage the entire Rust for Linux project:

https://lwn.net/ml/all/20250131075751.GA16720@lst.de/

The good news is this doesn't affect drm/asahi, our GPU driver. The bad news is it does affect all the other drivers we're (re)writing in Rust, two so far with a third one coming.

Another choice quote, calling R4L "cancer": https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250128092334.GA28548@lst.de/

Personally, I would consider this grounds for removal of Christoph from the Linux project on Code of Conduct violation grounds, but sadly I doubt much will happen other than draining a lot of people's energy and will to continue the project until Linus says "fuck you" or something.

As for how to move forward, if I were one of the Rust maintainers, I would just merge the patch (which does not touch code formally maintained by the dissenter). Either Linus takes the pull, and whatever Christoph says is irrelevant, or he doesn't, and R4L dies. Everything else is a waste of everyone's time and energy.

Edit: Sent in my 2 cents: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st/T/#m1944b6d485070970e359bbc7baa71b04c86a30af

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[–] LPThinker@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I broadly agree.

However, "Existing maintainers have every right to push back where they see fit" is tenuous when the Linux project as a whole has already (exhaustively) discussed and debated this exact question alongside all the other questions about adding Rust, and the explicit declared direction is that Rust should become an increasingly large part of the Linux kernel.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the explicit declared direction is that Rust should become an increasingly large part of the Linux kernel.

Who explicitly declared this? Where?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-talks-ai-rust-adoption-and-why-the-linux-kernel-is-the-only-thing-that-matters/

Switching to a more modern topic, the introduction of the Rust language into Linux, Torvalds is disappointed that its adoption isn't going faster. "I was expecting updates to be faster, but part of the problem is that old-time kernel developers are used to C and don't know Rust. They're not exactly excited about having to learn a new language that is, in some respects, very different. So there's been some pushback on Rust."

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have seen that interview. Neither the excerpt you quoted nor the rest of the interview is what Thinker@lemmy.world claimed.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Let me guess, you get your Linux kernel development news from youtube?