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[–] fishos@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ahhh, the rallying cry of "just downvote it". I'd insert the "this your first time?" gif here if I could. Leaving a community to self moderate invariably turns into a popularity contest, and then when one group eventually takes over, an echo chamber usually filled with the same regurgitated spam. "If you don't like it just downvote it" or it's reverse "well it has a lot of upvotes, so someone must like it"(welcome to why we have so many bots today....) always ends up catering to the terminally online at the detriment of the average person. People far too often will speak with absolute confidence about things they have never even experienced, but because it's well formatted, it's sent to the top. The Gell-Mann Amnesia effect describes this in part.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This site is maybe the worst echo chamber I've ever experienced it's just one that suites my opinions. Hell even if I agree with the echo chamber but I'm the wrong way it gets rejected aggressively. If you think it's bots then that seems like a more legitimate complaint but if it's a repost getting enough upvotes and is not weighted for controversy then it's actually the terminally online people that know every post suffering with their obsession and not the community at large. I completely disagree with that theory

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So when I wrote about bots, I was describing them as an effect created by a cause. You went and reversed the two and are thinking I blamed bots.

No.

What I said was that voting based moderation is a popularity contest. An easy way to win popularity contests is to stuff the ballot. On the internet, you can do this with bots. Ergo, the rise in bots all over the Internet is a consequence of our popularity based algorithms and systems. That type of moderation just doesn't work. But please, keep misunderstanding people and then blaming others. I'm sure that'll help.

If you're gonna disagree with my idea, at least get it right. You're not being downvotted heavily for not agreeing with the hive mind in the right way. You're being downvotted for lacking reading comprehension and going off on a crazy sounding tangent.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I did not misunderstand your bot theory but good to see you prove my "even if I agree" point lmao

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You ended your comment saying you completely disagree with me after reiterating what I'd just said as if it were your own thought.

You really need to work on your communication and reading comprehension buddy.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If you think it’s bots then that seems like a more legitimate complaint

An easy way to win popularity contests is to stuff the ballot. On the internet, you can do this with bots

You really need to work on your communication and reading comprehension buddy.

Maybe try a mirror bud

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Try reading the whole thing and comprehending it as a complex thought with nuance. I'll wait. Might take you awhile but I'll wait.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

On boy are you dense. I agreed if your theory that bots are to blame is correct you have a legitimate complaint I dispute that and you got really confused and angry saying I don't understand instead of anything of substance. Do you know what projection is?

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I never said bots were the problem. I said people caring more about popularity is the problem and that once you realize this it's super easy to program bots to imitate people by up voting/down voting what you want. But yes, call me dense when you've misconstrued my argument from day one.

Edit: didn't look like my previous comment posted so I rewrote it. Considering how dense you are tho, maybe two versions will help you finally understand, so I'll just leave it.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

I never said bots were the problem

it’s super easy to program bots to imitate people

Considering how dense you are tho

Hmm...

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Because I never said bots are to blame. People are and once you realize that, programming a bot to do what people can do is super easy.

I get offended when people try to tell me I made an argument I never made. But thanks again buddy 👍