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[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

does graphene os solve this? I thought they were mostly google under the hood

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago

It definitely helps. In GrapheneOS, Google Play Services can be installed, but it is sandboxed and doesn't even have network access unless you allow it.

It solves so much more though, like through scoping you can give an app access to your contacts, or just specific contacts; to the app, those specific contacts are the only contacts that exist on your phone.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

They have Google services ~~but through a third party wrapper called MicroG, which keeps it~~ sandboxed to a degree that you can keep it from doing system-level actions like this

edit: not microG, as evidenced by the strikethrough I put in very soon after receiving the first of several replies clarifying the situation. I would encourage you to read one of them before adding your own. <3

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

Gos doesnt use MicroG. MicroG is a foss implementation of googles APIs, with very ways to be tracked, and the ability to turn those components off. Graphene says "you get nothing or you get these closed source black boxes we sandboxed".

[–] Bad_Engineering@fedia.io 6 points 21 hours ago

You actually have to implicitly install google services on GrapheneOS, but if you do install it then it is sandboxed.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They do indeed not use microg, just sandboxed Google services

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Oh my bad. According to another commenter it is sandboxed though