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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This woman will be like 70 paying for the sins of a crazy 17 year old she doesn't know or understand. Reminds me of Shawshank Redemption. I can feel bad for the victims while also empathizing with the life of the perp being lost and wasted as well

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Though I mostly agree with your I do wonder what you'd think if this wasn't a cute sexy teenager but a fat 25 year old black girl. Or worse, an ugly black guy.

I'm reading these comments and find weirdly a lot of "aahhhwww poor her" messages and I can't escape the feeling it's because she's young and pretty

[–] xxkickassjackxx@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately she made a decision that KILLED SOMEONE with the intent of KILLING SOMEONE.

Her victims will never get to be 70. Let her rot.

And you’re acting like that 70 year old is innocent. That 70 year old intentionally murdered someone because she was upset. Yeah it was 53 years ago but that’s the same person. 53 years ago that 70 year old deprived another human being of the rest of their life because she got upset. I don’t think you’d have the same sympathy for other criminals just because their crime was decades ago.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think people might be getting too hung up on the car and thinking it makes this less of a big deal. It's the opposite though imo -- you shoot a loaded gun, it's a split second. You hit someone with a car, you've had plenty of time to think things through. You don't tap the accelerator once and then they're dead. You have to commit to the decision, and actively choose to not hit the brakes or swerve away or throw on the emergency brake.

I have no pity. She knew what she was doing, she chose to do it, and she thought about it beforehand.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you’re the same person at 70 than you were at 17, that’s more of a you problem than anything. Like seriously, that’s not good.

[–] xxkickassjackxx@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m not claiming the person wouldn’t have any growth or change. The growth or change doesn’t negate that this girl committed premeditated murder.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Nobody argued that it does. They’re arguing that a 70 year old shouldn’t be held responsible for actions they took over 5 decades in the past - from when they were a person so far removed from who they are now that they’re effectively a different person.

No, they’re not literally a different person. Nobody’s actually arguing that lol.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It probably would have made a difference if the victims families could see it this way. It’s not like she ran him over. She crashed the car she was in also. Clearly an unsound mind at work.

Yet they begged for the harshest possible sentence. It won’t be enough for them. But the rest of us get to pay for her incarceration for the rest of her natural life.