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Humanity loophole: you can pay people less if they're from prison. (slrpnk.net)

submitted 6 months ago by ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Important to add, once freed they will be ineligible to take a job as a firefighter in California.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Umm

The website for this program states the exact opposite

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/faq-conservation-fire-camp-program/

Yes. A felony conviction does not disqualify employment with CAL FIRE. Many former camp firefighters go on to gain employment with CAL FIRE, the United States Forest Service and interagency hotshot crews.

CAL FIRE, California Conservation Corps (CCC), and CDCR, in partnership with the Anti-Recidivism Coalition (ARC), developed an 18-month enhanced firefighter training and certification program at the Ventura Training Center (VTC), located in Ventura County.

The VTC trains formerly-incarcerated people on parole who have recently been part of a trained firefighting workforce housed in fire camps or institutional firehouses operated by CAL FIRE and CDCR. Members of the CCC are also eligible to participate. VTC cadets receive additional rehabilitation and job training skills to help them be more successful after completion of the program. Cadets who complete the program are qualified to apply for entry-level firefighting jobs with local, state, and federal firefighting agencies.

For more information, visit the Ventura Training Center (VTC) webpage.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's the first sensible advocacy point I've seen sense I started reading these threads. It really doesn't make sense to assign prisoners to jobs they're legally barred from.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From what I've heard this is actually an excellent job for many of them. It's good pay (for prison labor) doing valuable work with a lot of dignity. And it's work for their community that's valuable on the outside. It should always be truly voluntary else it be horrifying, but if they can't do it once they get out it's not job training and it's not reducing recidivism. These prisoners are doing heroic work, let them be heroic once freed.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All prison jobs should pay actual wages and be voluntary though. While the firefighting job is voluntary, many prison jobs are not. Including jobs making products for private companies.