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I'm a linux developer of 25+ years and I'm permanently banned from /r/linux because I dared criticize systemd.
My answer is therefore: Power-tripping mods. Where mods are required, ensure the community has the ability to oust them.
Shitting on someone just for not liking systemd is really stupid. FOSS thrives on diversity, and having alternatives to systemd's parts will always be a plus. I'm okay with systemd myself, but it's easy to understand why some might not like it.
The Linux community tends to have some ego which think they have figured it all out, elitism is a problem which needs to be addressed more often in my opinion.
There was a mod drama over there at Linux too. After a while, the power tripping mod was kicked out and a lot of the banned accounts were restored (including one of mine). Things were okay until spez.
A ban transparency list, kinda like a certificate transparency list, would be great but the big issue is that you can't keep publicly hosting prohibited content...
If you don't mind me asking, what is bad about systemd is there a post anywhere?
Yeah, I was having a whinge about it here the other day. Just a sec while I dig up the corpse...
But if you want to read more about how why others hate systemd, there's no shortage of material:
https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd
https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page.html
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21616608
http://www.galexander.org/systemd_sucks.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18873851
I hate systemd, but my Gentoo is running gnome just fine with openrc.
Indeed, it seems I was wrong. However, I've just had a look at the "Gnome without systemd project" for Gentoo. The fact it is an entire project kinda supports my point.
I mean, just have a look at that project and how much effort it takes to run Gnome without systemd. It would almost be easier to install LFS.
You're not wrong. Never the less I'm thankfull that some people took the effort to make stuff run without crapd.
I'm waiting for that to get implemented in Lemmy, but I feel like that is going to take a while unless volunteers get it working.