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They are also killing politicians of course but this is generally a net good
Order people to fire off more explosives than the human mind can comprehend in a war, then launch more explosives than that entire war in every battle of the next war, and you get called a "great man"
You toss a single grenade at that first guy and suddenly you're the "bomb thrower".
Watch "the Chekist", and tell me how much of a net good it is.
I love your naivety where you think they'll kill all the people you don't like, but they'd never touch you or your loved ones, because you're the exception
Watch The Murder of Fred Hampton, and tell me how it’s not currently being done by those in power.
I love your naivety where you think that just because they don’t kill you or your loved ones, because you’re (likely) part of the accepted group, it’s ok to ignore the fact that they kill all the people you don’t care to think about.
(I have no idea who you are. I just think the counter point to your point is equally valid and deserves consideration)
I think you're missing a point here.
Of course his murder is bad and a disgrace, and of course those responsible should have been jailed for life. But with that in mind...
Do you really believe that a "radical" like Fred would not be immediately picked up and put against a wall in case of a socialist, or anarchist revolution? Especially people like him, leaders with their own minds, would just disappear and be put in front of a door.
I'll watch the movie later when I have a chance to see it on the TV instead of my cellphone.
You do the same.
Never said or implied that those in power wouldn’t use violence to achieve their goals.
My point was the group in power will always oppose the use of force by those they oppress while using violence to oppress them.
As long as one side uses violence (physical, economic, political, etc.) All other sides have to be ready, willing, and able to respond in kind. No one is special. We are all equal.
The trick those with a monopoly on violence use is disguising their violent acts and then getting those they abuse to shame others into submission.
If there was a socialist anarchist revolution I think “Fred” as you call him would keep his guard up and fight like he did up to the point the establishment killed him. I think he understood that just because the people next to you are headed in the same direction doesn’t mean you have the same destination.
It was a joke man jesus
I mean I do genuinely believe there are many politicians who deserve to be shot though. Just not genuinely suggesting we line them up against a wall or anything
I'll agree with you that the world would be off better without many politicians, trump comes to mind. I would piss on his grave but I would never advocate for his murder, even though he might bring the end of the world on all of us.
The reason why I suggested the movie is that too many people here are talking too easily about "well hey, lets just murder those that oppose us in the name of peace!" not thinking about what they say really entails
I apologize for missing the joke