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Percent of births outside marriage in Europe. (landgeistdotcom.files.wordpress.com)
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[-] Rayleigh@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Germany the difference between former East and West Germany is very interesting. While in the East it is roughly 55% in the west it is much lower, also with clear differences from north to south: https://www.iwd.de/artikel/unehelich-na-und-291746/

[-] Interesting_Test_814@jlai.lu 7 points 1 year ago

This is not what I would have expected given the general tendency seems to be "eastern block = less". Curious about why this is reversed in Germany (and Bulgaria apparently).

[-] Rayleigh@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be honest I dont get your comment. Can you maybe explain more? For me the distribution looks exactly like what I would have expected considering our history.

[-] Interesting_Test_814@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

I mean looking at the other numbers on the map, the eastern countries generally seem to have much lower outside-marriage birth rates yet east Germany has higher rates than the west. I'd have expected closer numbers to e.g. Poland in east Germany and closer to France/Belgium/Netherlands in the west.

[-] Rayleigh@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah but Poland for example is very catholic traditionally. Also South and West Germany, while East Germany was more protestant. The socialist system in the GDR didn't care much for religion or actively opposed it leaving todays east Germany then largely atheist. I think this plays a huge role. You'll see the same divide looking at women working or children in kindergarten because east Germany favored a more progressive way of family and gender roles.

[-] TheRex1209@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

They didnt just 'didnt Care much', the goverment discriminated you If You believed in god. Examples i have Heard of is that If you wanted to Go to university or wanted a promotion they advised you to Stop practicing your religion.

I don't remember the exact Numbers, but about 80% were catholic after the war and about 15% were after Germany united again.

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

about 80% were catholic after the war

You mean religious? I don't think that region has been majority Catholic in centuries.

[-] Rayleigh@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Jep exactly, that is what happened to my grand parents.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly, that still sounds very high. I'm in the prime birthing age and hardly anyone in my peer group is married, yet many have kids.

That's anecdotal, sure, but it also implies that there's a huge population of married child bearers. Where are those?

[-] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Bavaria has entered the chat.

[-] silvercove 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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