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[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not denying his hatred or crime. A massacre born from racist hatred is a pogrom, a hate crime, an atrocity. Anakin isn't a good guy just because he only butchered one group, and I don't think anyone is claiming otherwise.

I'm arguing whether the massacre of one group of their race constitutes genocide in terms of scale (local outburst of violence as opposed to a planet-wide persecution) and intent (revenge out of rage and hate born from topical pain as opposed to a persistent effort to eliminate an entire race).

Not every pogrom is genocide. We don't need to reach for the most extreme terms to describe violence born from racism. In case it needs to be emphasised, Anakin committed a hate crime, incited by grief and rage, but likely fueled by preexisting prejudice.

There really is no need to stoop to insults and condescension about it either. If you have a contribution to make about the subject matter - perhaps because you think I've forgotten something - just contribute instead of prefacing and closing it with vitriol.

The thing I hate about Star Wars is how stuck-up and elitist some fans get. God forbid you get something wrong - if you haven't consumed and intricately memorised every piece of canon (and "Legends") lore, you're trash. And because everyone gets something wrong at some point, they all suck and everyone that likes it is an idiot (except me of course, I know everything). Damn Star Wars Fans, they ruined Star Wars!

That isn't the environment any fandom should foster. If you love something, help others love it too! If someone gets something wrong or doesn't know something, share what you know. If someone holds a position you disagree with, talk to them and figure out where you disagree. Be part of the reason someone says "I fucking love Star Wars". Let's love it together.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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Among so many other things, pogroms are genocides, great mind.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

I feel we're arguing about definitions here, except that you're just asserting the equivalence instead of proposing a definition that would lead to that conclusion.

I offered my distinction. What part do you disagree with?

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