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submitted 2 weeks ago by pjwestin@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

Seriously though, don't do violence.

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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"

~ Asimov

And here we are, nailed to the fucking wall. I'm fine with expanding this "incompetence".

[-] blackluster117@possumpat.io 19 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like Asimov's statement has to be couched in some larger discussion. Taken in a vacuum, I can see some merit, but I can't say that I completely agree with it. Incompetent in what aspect? I feel that his quote ignores intention. For some, violence isn't something that they're resorting to due to a failure to communicate through conflict, it is the preferred tool for the job. He comes off a little condescending and armchair intellectual-y here. I prefer the Sun Tzu quote someone mentioned earlier in the thread, "Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise."

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

yeah I love Asimov but the quote is stupid. What is a slave supposed to do to it's master? Write a strongly worded letter? Beg for others to save them?

Violence absolutely makes sense when there's no diplomatic solution and unfortunately quarter into the 21st century - where we should have personal robots and moon bases - that is still a pretty big issue.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

If life was a story book probably pleed their case to a rich influence noble or seduce a bishop and have them work to slowly change society and in 70 years it works out by using the system to change things from within.... end of story

Real life: Then some dbag who likes the old ways will ruin everything and here we are going back to square one.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago

The M4A movement was absolutely incompetent if you compared it to health insurance Super PACs. It was basically a bunch unpaid volunteers, many with their own medical debt, against fully salaried lobby groups paid for with our premiums, our denied claims.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So like, one rough day, and I mean really rough? Sounds familiar, wait it's coming back... dictator but only on day one - that kind of thing?

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