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How can execution of billionaires be "for show?" Are they supporting billionaires, or killing the ones that step out of line? Which is it?
Typical Wumao.
You can’t have billionaires and be communist. End of discussion.
Is Engels "wumao?"
Do you think the PRC can summon more developed productive forces with the swish and flick of a wand? The entire purpose of Scientific Socialism is analyzing that markets and public ownership are both tools, and each is more or less effective at different points in development. Half the PRC's economy is in the public sector, governing industries like steel, infrastructure, energy, etc, which all place reliance on the public sector from the private sector, which is not as developed and generally governs more complex industries at lower levels of development.
I gave you my last message on the other comment. And you definitely know what that word means.
I know what wumao is, I am asking why you believe Engels is wumao.
I’m talking about YOU
And I am quoting Engels, and asking why you believe him to be wrong and therefore "wumao," as he is describing centuries ago the very process the PRC is going through right now.
You don’t know what the word means. lol
I do, your insistence that I don't know that wumao refers to people paid by the PRC to spread propaganda makes it seem as cover for your lack of ability to answer my questions.
You’re not asking questions.
lol. Wumao, when they gave you that document of quotes to use, you weren’t supposed to copy the question.
You must be new.
The "document of quotes" is just Marx and Engels, lmao. I asked you directly that question, your avoidance of it speaks to your inability to answer it, so you pull out the ol' reliable method of refusing to engage and just resort to baseless insults of no effect.
You’re not doing anything but copy and paste.
Less than half of this comment is copied and pasted, the rest was original and written for you in particular as a response to your comment. The copied and pasted bit is from Engels, supporting my claim that the PRC is acting as Marxists, and therefore Communists.