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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...were the accelerationists correct? Was the Beijing evangelical dad correct??

Tremendous outcome

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The accelerationists are always correct except for the fact that advocating for worse conditions is abhorrent and disconnects you from the people whose conditions you just helped make worse instead of better. They will always be correct but it will always be a strategy that should not be undertaken because it will only harm the movement.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I've been grappling with whether I'm an accelerationist or just a pessimist. Because I don't want bad things to happen, I just keep correctly predicting them and looking for silver linings.

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

advocating for worse conditions is abhorrent

What if you're not advocating for them in a material way, because you lack any real input into your socio-economic future? What if you're just trying to claim you can see a silver lining in the face of an incoming storm?

And what if the folks in government and media and business who denounce "accelerationism" are the ones prosecuting the policy, while blaming anyone who looks at the catastrophic results and says "Maybe this will turn out for the best in the end" are secret foreign influenced enemies of the state?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Silver lining is fine, doing things like advocating to vote for the worst possible option is not, or worse still are the accelerationists taking part in and actively pushing the far right further because they believe worsening the conditions is good.

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

doing things like advocating to vote for the worst possible option is not

Unless you're suggesting Joe Rogan or RFK Jr or Aaron Sorkin or Lin Manuel Miranda are accelerationists, I just don't think we're talking about a meaningful input into election results.

the accelerationists taking part in and actively pushing the far right further

I don't think this kind of person exists in a meaningful way. Actual corporate fascists are pushing conservatives rightward.

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think we have the numbers to meaningfully affect the vote whether we're advocating for accelerationism or not. The world seems to have chosen to make the lives of people worse, and many of us are just coping and hoping that the worsening conditions - which were coming regardless - will lead to a better outcome in the end.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago

Posadists get the last laugh